2/2 (GP): Gr. I Donn; Gr. II Swale

[justindew]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

What was the confusing part for you? Was it the number of syllables?

No, the syllables I can handle. Just not sure I agree that it's a given he would have dominated that race.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

If you subtract Daheer - added Commentator - and assumed Commentator would get the same trip as Dahher (which he has the speed to) - of course he would have won in fashion every bit as similar as Daheer won.

And I say think thinking a little less of Commentator than BTW does.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If you subtract Daheer - added Commentator - and assumed Commentator would get the same trip as Dahher (which he has the speed to) - of course he would have won in fashion every bit as similar as Daheer won.

And I say think thinking a little less of Commentator than BTW does.

I don't disagree that he would have won. It's just difficult for me to visualize Commentator DOMINATING anything these days other than an optional claimer at Gulfstream on a Thursday over a fast surface around one turn after going the opening 1/4 in 23:4 against the likes of Wood Be Willing.

But whatever.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He would have got the same pace and trip in the Cigar that he did in that optional claimer.

He ran a 119 Beyer in the Opt Claimer.

Please explain to me, how he wouldn't have run just about the same figure with that same trip in the Cigar.

Would the "class" of Midnight Lute ... who would have been well behind him .. somehow slowed Commentator down??

Think this one through.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He would have got the same pace and trip in the Cigar that he did in that optional claimer.

He ran a 119 Beyer in the Opt Claimer.

Please explain to me, how he wouldn't have run just about the same figure with that same trip in the Cigar.

Would the "class" of Midnight Lute ... who would have been well behind him .. somehow slowed Commentator down??

Think this one through.

Not that this necessarily refutes your argument, but when is the last time Commentator won a stakes race against open company, much less a Grade I? I really don't know the answer to that off the top of my head, so someone please tell me.

I suppose it's fair to say he would have won under the exact same conditions, but if you can make that argument for Commentator, you can probably make it for a few other horses currently in training.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by justindew

Not that this necessarily refutes your argument, but when is the last time Commentator won a stakes race against open company, much less a Grade I? I really don't know the answer to that off the top of my head, so someone please tell me.

In the Whitney, when he beat eventual horse of the year Saint Liam. And that was the last time he was loose on the lead in a Grade 1.

Originally Posted by justindew

I suppose it's fair to say he would have won under the exact same conditions, but if you can make that argument for Commentator, you can probably make it for a few other horses currently in training.

I agree...though, very few would have looked as good as Commentator would have with that kind of a trip.

[justindew]

Under the same logic, can I make the argument that Teuflesburg would have won the Strub today with the same trip as that son of Thunderello?