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Old 01-24-2008, 01:57 AM
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Call me crazy but Tsonga has a shot tonight against Nadal.
+280 is worth a $40 wager.

Just hope Tsonga's serve is on point.
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Old 01-24-2008, 02:05 AM
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Call me crazy but Tsonga has a shot tonight against Nadal.
+280 is worth a $40 wager.

Just hope Tsonga's serve is on point.
not crazy at all.

this fricken kid is moving like his ass is on fire compared to last year.

h'es been playing great and riding a high.

the only concern is that he's fit but is he fit enuff to stay with nadal. nadal will make him run back and forth till his head is swiming and don't know up from down.

i think its worth a 40 shot. no doubt
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Old 01-24-2008, 02:24 AM
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Tsonga knocked out the 3 guys I backed - Murray, Gasquet and Youzhny.. cant believe how well he's playing...
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Old 01-24-2008, 05:54 AM
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Wow,Tsonga blew Nadal away ......Reminds me of Safin(at his very best,) but even better....Trust me,Nadal had no shot against what this guy had.
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Wow,Tsonga blew Nadal away ......Reminds me of Safin(at his very best,) but even better....Trust me,Nadal had no shot against what this guy had.
That is exactly who popped into my head while watching Tsonga play Youzhny the other morning. I thought he had a great shot to win this match...in four, probably five sets. I never thought he could dust Nadal, though - incredible, inconceivable, out-of-body performance. I think he was even a little surprised after match point by how he dominated. I can't wait to see him in the final. But before that, we still have Federer-Djokovic to look forward to.
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Tsonga was unreal. Glad I woke up early to pee and turned it on. That was just an overwhelming show. How could Nadal look slow but he did, and the power from behind the base line was awesome. I;ve never seen the announcers so blown away. Had not seen him play before but if this is what he's got, the finals going to be special. Can he continue at this level? Sure got a confidence booster today!

And for us old enough to know, the young Ali look and manner is unmistakable.

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Pillow,

You are the man...nice call.
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Call me crazy but Tsonga has a shot tonight against Nadal.
+280 is worth a $40 wager.

Just hope Tsonga's serve is on point.
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Old 01-24-2008, 06:51 PM
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tsonga was unreal.

he imposed on nadal his own game-i think nadal got a hell of a work out

those volley dropshots where unreal, even nadal couldn't believe it

last game-final set all nadal could do was smile himself
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:43 PM
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Have no idea what he will do when people are expecting to see that again(in the finals.) Also,Nadal is more of a shotmaker/speed player.He lacks power.The other 2 (in the semis) don't lack power.I wouldn't bet against this guy though.They were saying a year ago,he couldn't keep shots in the court long enough to rally.Are you kid'n me? I'm not sure I have ever seen anybody hit the ball(so many times) exactly where they wanted to hit it.Nadal was not playing poorly at all.This guy was playing too well.Hitting it hard,and had huge accuracy on difficult angles.He and Safin have that same look on their faces(when they are doing well.) They know they are playing well,but they don't seem to be really thinking much.It's very natural.Like "I wonder if I am gunna bang 4 chicks tonite.Last nite I did 3,and I could have done 1 more." Nadal and Federer etc.,are both thinking,ploding,thinking(actually,Federer has an extra gear he goes to.)If Federer goes to that gear,and still loses an important game,then that's it.He pouts...It's over.He quits.It doesn't happen very much,but he does quit.He doesn't quit physically,but mentally he doesn't believe he will come back.Nadal was 1 point away from getting him into the pout stage at Wimbledon.He had 2 or 3 break points,but could not get enough power on any of the returns of serve.That is a difference between Tiger,and Federer.I've never seen Tiger give in.It's so rare that guys can beat Federer when he pushes the pedal all the way down though.Safin in the 2005 Australian semi-finals,and obviously the French Open(that's different though,because he is giving 100% at all times at the French,and just isn't good enough on the surface.........he has no final gear there.)
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:57 PM
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Call me crazy but Tsonga has a shot tonight against Nadal.
+280 is worth a $40 wager.

Just hope Tsonga's serve is on point.
You are a machine.

Now destruction by way of Federer.
Although hes gonna get pushed.
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:21 PM
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You are a machine.

Now destruction by way of Federer.
Although hes gonna get pushed.
I don't think he'll get pushed.

-265 is tempting...but never worth it.
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Old 01-25-2008, 06:31 AM
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I don't think he'll get pushed.

-265 is tempting...but never worth it.

Incorrect.Can't wait to see him get his butt kicked at the French.Be saaaweet like da candy cane.
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:20 AM
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Wow. Here I thought there wasn't a player left (outside of Nadal at the French) who believed they could beat Federer.

Should be a great final.
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At Wimbledon,Federer is the best on that surface.On any other surface,it really is a matter of whether guys are willing to step up and play well.That's all this guy did last night.He did what you need to do to beat Federer.He took care of his own serve,and didn't make a bunch of errors.If you do that,you got a pretty damn good shot.If you don't do that,then yes,Federer will feast on ya.It wasnot like the match the previous night.That match was about TSONGA'S amazing offense against Nadal.This was about the Serb refusing to make the errors that Federer expects his opponents to make.Just look at the final point.That pretty much described the whole match.The Serb refused to make an error.He didn't fire a winner.Federer got tight and (for no reason at all) jammed one right into the net.A totally unforced error.On grass,Federer wins with offense.On other hard courts,he wins mainly by waiting for other guys to make mistakes on serve or during long rallies.Sure,on hard courts,he hits the ball too powerfully for weak guys like Nadal or Blake to be able to hang,but there are other guys(like the winners of these last 2 night's matches)that can hit the ball hard enough with him on hard courts.Those guys usually are simply unable to keep hitting the ball back without making errors.They make more unforced errors than he does.They can't use their 1st serve consistently enough.On hard courts,if you do what this Serb did(control your 1st serve n' keep hitting the ball back,) you can beat Federer.Grass is much different.Roger uses offense there.He doesn't just hit the ball back until they make errors.He is by far the best grass player I have ever seen.Nadal is by far the best clay player anybody will ever see.Both are obviously very beatable on other surfaces.Nadal should just play on clay.Doesn't take a genius to see the guy is way underpowered on any surface that isn't clay.I don't know why he doesn't have power,but he just doesn't have it.If you can't get aces(when you have to get them) with your serve,then how you gunna win majors on hard courts? Seriously needs to get some power from somewhere.

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Old 01-25-2008, 06:26 AM
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You are a machine.

Now destruction by way of Federer.
Although hes gonna get pushed.
INCORRECT SIR.FEDERER DESTROYED....Get on his sack at Wimbledon.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:54 AM
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INCORRECT SIR.FEDERER DESTROYED....Get on his sack at Wimbledon.
Nice call scuds...
AFTER the event.

I think there is a name for that.
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Old 01-27-2008, 01:02 PM
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Nice call scuds...
AFTER the event.

I think there is a name for that.
That's not a call,and you know it.Just shows everybody what a manipulative bitch you are,and always will be.As far as I'M concerned ,you didn't make a call.You didn't say to go out and take odds on Federer at a low #.It was just you supporting Federer chalk.I said if he gets down in the match,and calls on his "A" game,then if that doesn't work quickly,then he mentally quits.He did that.He pouted.Just as he always does in his losses.Now,if you want a call,then go to yesterday's Anita selections to find me pick "ONEFUNSONOFAGUN." that was a "CALL." She got deadheated.I had the win bet,and exacta,and didn't make much.That's why I say to play the multi-race bets.That's what I should have done.Sometimes you get caught by somebody putting all their inside win money in a p3,p4 pool.You get a bad break on the payoff,but it pays too good on a regular basis to worry about that.The good far outweighs the bad(if you bet it consistently.)Remember I had the p3 at Churchill that paid $5800 for what would have been a $1800 win parlay payoff.Ask Hooves, If ya forget,cuz I (unfortunately) had to beat his to get mine.His was paying over 10k.
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Old 01-27-2008, 01:39 PM
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That's not a call,and you know it.Just shows everybody what a manipulative bitch you are,and always will be.As far as I'M concerned ,you didn't make a call.You didn't say to go out and take odds on Federer at a low #.It was just you supporting Federer chalk.I said if he gets down in the match,and calls on his "A" game,then if that doesn't work quickly,then he mentally quits.He did that.He pouted.Just as he always does in his losses.Now,if you want a call,then go to yesterday's Anita selections to find me pick "ONEFUNSONOFAGUN." that was a "CALL." She got deadheated.I had the win bet,and exacta,and didn't make much.That's why I say to play the multi-race bets.That's what I should have done.Sometimes you get caught by somebody putting all their inside win money in a p3,p4 pool.You get a bad break on the payoff,but it pays too good on a regular basis to worry about that.The good far outweighs the bad(if you bet it consistently.)Remember I had the p3 at Churchill that paid $5800 for what would have been a $1800 win parlay payoff.Ask Hooves, If ya forget,cuz I (unfortunately) had to beat his to get mine.His was paying over 10k.
If you pick the right pik 3 or 4 races. If you were going to bet those 3 or 4 anyway. But I see very few cards where I feel comfy 3 or 4 races in a row. So I gotta go deep and the risk taken most of the time outweighs the unknown reward. Why is that so hard to understand?

I am just getting back to the horses. The last horse bet and pick I made was Kip Deville on this board. And after I won that bet and got praised, I noted that the horse got a perfect trip, and it worked out perfectly because probably the best horse in the race had a horrible outside post. ie, I needed some luck and got it. It just astounds me after people like you get a win, it was pure genius. Its never pure genius. How many times have you had the best horse in the race and lost? How many times have you had a horse that was clearly going to compete in a race and won, and then go back and look at the race and say, By God, things worked out well for me. If that 4 horse had not got blocked I would not have won. Do you EVER do that?

As far as Federer. I knew he was playing a very tough smart player. I wrote he would get pushed. Well he got pushed out of the tournament. You somehow think cause you dont like him this will dictate the outcome. I dont revel in a loss like just because I think he is a clay court specialist and not much more. Oh, and a great competitor, better than Federer in this category, just not as talented.

As far as Hooves goes, I think he does an incredible job
keeping a handle on so many tracks. I could never do this,
I dont have the time or the memory.
And a few of his picks in the past that have coincided with
my own have won on a pretty consistent basis. So I really like
it when our picks match up.
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:14 PM
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No,it's not pure genius.If you can get a single to win,then you can get thru the other 2 legs without even having a huge opinion in them.For 6 racing days in a row(DEC. 28th,29th,30th,31st,JAN 1st,3rd) I posted the winning single of the last race at Anita.15-20 years ago,I would have tried to beat some of those horses(and lost win bets,)but because of p3,p4 betting,I can bet what I think is gunna really win.That's because if you can get some prices in the other legs,then being right about a $5-$8 horse will pay something.If you don't do that,then you're gunna have to bet more to make less(win betting.)I mean $30 on a $7 horse is gunna pay you $105,but $30 on a p3 ending in a $7 horse often pays $200.What win betters do is get they ass in a sling because they want that $200.So,they up their wager to $55-$60.They bet more to win the same,and lose twice as much when they lose.I know.I use to do it.P3,P4 has made a big difference for me.Yea,I have losing streaks,but they sure don't cost what they use to cost.If you like playing $5-$8 horses,then you better be playing p3-p4 because it just takes quite a bit of money to make money win betting those.Also,if you lose doing it,you will find yourself trying to find 5-1 to 9-1 type horses to win with(because you need to.)That's how they get they ass in a sling.That's the recipe.Be smarter...win as much with half the money bet,and lose half as much when you go cold.That isn't genius.It's taking what they give you.
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:35 PM
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Ana Ivanovic is +385 for the match.

Worth A $25 WAGER
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