Indian Blessing - Sets record

King Glorious · #1 01-14-2008, 12:38 AM

I have no premise. I'm not making any predictions that she will be in the Derby, that she could win the Derby, or anything else. The only thing that I did was rate the three year olds on how I see them right now. Right now, I haven't seen those that have done more than her and are more deserving of the ranking that I gave her than she is. Speculation and predictions for the future are great but they are also worthless. In sports, you've got to beat the champion in order to take their title away. It's not just handed to you. Until I see more that PROVE they can do more than her, I'm leaving her up there. If that's funny to you, I'm happy to entertain. If it bothers you, I'm sorry you take it so personal.

One last thing. As I've always said, I don't rate the 3yo's only based on Derby potential. There are plenty of other races in which to make a name for yourself besides the Derby.

blackthroatedwind · #2 01-14-2008, 12:44 AM

Then I'm confused. I thought you posted the other day that she was one of the top four contenders for the Derby. I apologize for my confusion.

I do think she's talented, perhaps even as far as a mile, but even at a time of pretty mild accomplishment I have trouble considering her in the top ten of 3YOs I have seen. However, that's just an opinion.

King Glorious · #3 01-14-2008, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Then I'm confused. I thought you posted the other day that she was one of the top four contenders for the Derby. I apologize for my confusion.

I do think she's talented, perhaps even as far as a mile, but even at a time of pretty mild accomplishment I have trouble considering her in the top ten of 3YOs I have seen. However, that's just an opinion.

The confusion is probably my fault. I think it was on a Derby contender thread instead of a top 3yo thread. Usually, those lists are one and the same though at this time of year.

In all honesty, I'd still have her listed pretty high if it was a Derby list. Maybe not #3 but probably still in my top five although I think it's very unlikely that Baffert's thinking that route with her at this time. Fortunately for us, she's in the hands of someone that, if she keeps progressing and looks worthy of a shot, will take one.

ArlJim78 · #4 01-14-2008, 12:58 AM

I like Golden Doc A for the Belmont.

cowgirlintexas · #5 01-14-2008, 07:05 AM

"Fortunately for us, she's in the hands of someone that, if she keeps progressing and looks worthy of a shot, will take one"

Unfortunately, she's in the hands of someone that will have her broken down before the 1st Saturday in May... we will see. Be lucky if she makes the Oaks.

Cannon Shell · #6 01-14-2008, 07:31 AM

Why are races run on poly considered "new" stakes records ? Shouldnt it be a stakes record for poly and be considered seperate from the existing track record? Not that it really matters ...

VOL JACK · #7 01-14-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why are races run on poly considered "new" stakes records ? Shouldnt it be a stakes record for poly and be considered seperate from the existing track record? Not that it really matters ...

You are using way too much logic, for this sport.

King Glorious · #8 01-14-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

"Fortunately for us, she's in the hands of someone that, if she keeps progressing and looks worthy of a shot, will take one"

Unfortunately, she's in the hands of someone that will have her broken down before the 1st Saturday in May... we will see. Be lucky if she makes the Oaks.

That's the way the game works. The strong survive, the rest don't.

Bobby Fischer · #9 01-14-2008, 09:27 AM

Wow that was fast.
At least she looked solid doing it.

blackthroatedwind · #10 01-14-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

That's the way the game works. The strong survive, the rest don't.

Thank God you weren't a golfing buddy of Tim Smith.

And, frankly, thank God racing is a lot more subtle than that.

tiggerv · #11 01-14-2008, 10:22 AM

No record is legit on that track right now. Personally, I was underwhelmed by her performance. Gomez had to all but drag her across the wire that final furlong.

This is apples and oranges of course but the filly from that card that we should be talking about is Zenyatta. There is a potential monster.

blackthroatedwind · #12 01-14-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So now Baffert is a trainer that breaks them down too?

Seems like he has done a pretty good job with her so far. He got a filly who probably wants no part of anything over 7-8 furlongs, to win 2 grade 1's and a championship, including a 2 turn win. Not too shabby.

You completely missed the, intended I'm sure, irony.....

This person is happy that, according to her, she is trained by someone willing to take a shot in the KY Derby with Indian Blessing while castigating Mr. Baffert for supposedly breaking down horses.

#13 01-14-2008, 10:28 AM

I think she's got a legitimate shot to enter The Hambletonian and win it.

Danzig · #14 01-14-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I still don't get it.

king is the one who made the point that baffert will take a shot with her, cowgirl was quoting his statement, while showing she disagreed.

miraja2 · #15 01-14-2008, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Then I'm confused. I thought you posted the other day that she was one of the top four contenders for the Derby. I apologize for my confusion.

I do think she's talented, perhaps even as far as a mile, but even at a time of pretty mild accomplishment I have trouble considering her in the top ten of 3YOs I have seen. However, that's just an opinion.

You are probably confused because you are remembering what he actually did write in the thread, instead of what he is now strangely claiming he wrote/meant.