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Old 01-02-2008, 06:03 PM
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About time the manufacturer showed up publically.
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:39 PM
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About time the manufacturer showed up publically.
I agree. At least someone has shown some responsibility and at least appears to be willing to do whatever it takes to fix the problem...
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Old 01-02-2008, 08:10 PM
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Sounds like Ron Popeil selling the Showtime Rotisserie Grill.
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Old 01-02-2008, 08:16 PM
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I must've missed when the conventional Santa Anita surface had so many problems that they (the CHRB) felt compelled to mandate this horse$hit.
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Old 01-02-2008, 08:51 PM
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I must've missed when the conventional Santa Anita surface had so many problems that they (the CHRB) felt compelled to mandate this horse$hit.
You and me both. The rest of the world too. I'm actually happy that this is happening. Serves them right.
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Old 01-02-2008, 08:59 PM
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Serves them right ? Who is they the horseman? Because thats who is getting the short end of the stick , the owners who spend millions of dollars a year buying horses and racing them , the people who work with the horses everyday. There are still less fatalities on this surface than the dirt one they had , and yes it does suck the big one that it doesnt drain properly , but to say they deserve what they get is just assnine.
I dont see this surface playing any diffirent speed wise and form wise than the old one , horses still crack 21 1/4's which is just absurd , but it seems to be what the public and alot of horseman want.
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:19 PM
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Serves them right ? Who is they the horseman? Because thats who is getting the short end of the stick , the owners who spend millions of dollars a year buying horses and racing them , the people who work with the horses everyday. There are still less fatalities on this surface than the dirt one they had , and yes it does suck the big one that it doesnt drain properly , but to say they deserve what they get is just assnine.
I dont see this surface playing any diffirent speed wise and form wise than the old one , horses still crack 21 1/4's which is just absurd , but it seems to be what the public and alot of horseman want.
it's a gambler thing.

change is hard. they have a system down and then the parameter's change. there's going to be some blowback.

those opposed to manufactured surfaces will make this the poster child for their cause. it's the end of the world.

doesn't matter that hollypark reduced injuries. i can't use my usual handicapping on these surfaces. it's not worth the learning curve.
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:51 PM
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Serves them right ? Who is they the horseman? Because thats who is getting the short end of the stick , the owners who spend millions of dollars a year buying horses and racing them , the people who work with the horses everyday. There are still less fatalities on this surface than the dirt one they had , and yes it does suck the big one that it doesnt drain properly , but to say they deserve what they get is just assnine.
I dont see this surface playing any diffirent speed wise and form wise than the old one , horses still crack 21 1/4's which is just absurd , but it seems to be what the public and alot of horseman want.

It's a bad attitude to put yourself ahead of the horseplayers if you work on the backstretch.
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Old 01-02-2008, 11:42 PM
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Sounds like Ron Popeil selling the Showtime Rotisserie Grill.
Are you implying that Cushion Track can also keep two vegetables "piping hot"?

If so, me and Chef Tony have some "perfection sheers" to sell you.
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:55 PM
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I agree. At least someone has shown some responsibility and at least appears to be willing to do whatever it takes to fix the problem...
but part of the problem is the attempt to come up with a solution to 110 degree heat-which of course they can't control.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:01 PM
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isn't it the track owner who is getting the short end of the stick? or the bettors? chrb mandated a change, but the owner pays for the new surface. bettors are told to get over the change--too bad if your system worked, just make a new one.
trainers still get their day rate, their help still gets paid. owners still have their horses and their money....how are horsemen getting the short end? santa anita offered to pay to ship horses to hollywood to work, since they couldn't work on the main at santa anita--did anyone pay to send the gamblers to another track for free? doubt it.
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