NYRA doom and gloomers(imbeciles)

Originally Posted by boldruler

The don't have to be ousted if they get somebody that holds them accountable. There is no reason for a non-profit racing organization. That is just a recipe for corruption.

Non-profits are a breeding ground for corruption. Just look at the United Way.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Non-profits are a breeding ground for corruption. Just look at the United Way.

Just look at any of them. The entire concept is a joke. Don't even get me started on NYCOTB, which manages to lose tens of millions every year.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Just look at any of them. The entire concept is a joke. Don't even get me started on NYCOTB, which manages to lose tens of millions every year.

Well some are good. Habitat for Humanity is a good one, so is American Red Cross, Salvation Army is good as well. But for the most part, non-profits are a joke when it comes to money management. This is because they dont have anyone to answer to. They ask for your money, you get a tax break if you donate so it is win win.

You guys are real brain surgeons. It was the state that decided long ago that the tracks should operate on a not for profit status. Since thats the way that the law reads, how in the world is that NYRA's fault? You have to be crazy for attempting to cricticize them on that issue.
Now that its going to change, and they are going to have bidding, good luck to those bidding against NYRA/MGM grand. MGM grand has the money to outbid anyone they choose to, and its going to operate with MGM running the slots side and NYRA running the races. MGM, like all others, hopes that someday more gambling forms will become legal in NY and they will be in the position to reap the rewards.

Originally Posted by oracle80

You guys are real brain surgeons. It was the state that decided long ago that the tracks should operate on a not for profit status. Since thats the way that the law reads, how in the world is that NYRA's fault? You have to be crazy for attempting to cricticize them on that issue.
Now that its going to change, and they are going to have bidding, good luck to those bidding against NYRA/MGM grand. MGM grand has the money to outbid anyone they choose to, and its going to operate with MGM running the slots side and NYRA running the races. MGM, like all others, hopes that someday more gambling forms will become legal in NY and they will be in the position to reap the rewards.

Here, explain this and then tell me how great NYRA is.

http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/rep...yra_report.pdf

Ruler you know as well as I do that any company(racetrack or non) that is put under a microscopic witchhunt is going to have problems uncovered.
I'd love to continue this debate but as the dreary steeplechase is about to go off it means that its time for me to walk over to the track in time for races 2-9. Sky has gotten cloudy so don't be surprised if it rains today. Later gents.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Ruler you know as well as I do that any company(racetrack or non) that is put under a microscopic witchhunt is going to have problems uncovered.
I'd love to continue this debate but as the dreary steeplechase is about to go off it means that its time for me to walk over to the track in time for races 2-9. Sky has gotten cloudy so don't be surprised if it rains today. Later gents.

I have no problem with NYRA winning the bid, but they need to hold them accountable. It is almost an unwritten joke that they can get away with anything they want because, as you know, being a Saratoga guy, they idiot politicians love their seats at Saratoga, and in exchange they let the people at NYRA run around with no oversight.

Read the report and you see how often they screw the betting public, the people that really make the game possible.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Here, explain this and then tell me how great NYRA is.

http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/rep...yra_report.pdf

That stuff is messed up for sure

Originally Posted by moodwalker

That stuff is messed up for sure

No kidding. For a while NYRA was basically a branch of organized crime.

[whorstman]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Here, explain this and then tell me how great NYRA is.

http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/rep...yra_report.pdf

Wow, dude, you could get "Wacked" for some sh1t like that. Just don't be suprised when you get "sent for".

Originally Posted by oracle80

You guys are real brain surgeons. It was the state that decided long ago that the tracks should operate on a not for profit status. Since thats the way that the law reads, how in the world is that NYRA's fault? You have to be crazy for attempting to cricticize them on that issue.
Now that its going to change, and they are going to have bidding, good luck to those bidding against NYRA/MGM grand. MGM grand has the money to outbid anyone they choose to, and its going to operate with MGM running the slots side and NYRA running the races. MGM, like all others, hopes that someday more gambling forms will become legal in NY and they will be in the position to reap the rewards.

It was the state that decided that with the advice of the NYRA. You have to tell the entire story.