Mitchell Report Guessing Game

[horseofcourse]

Mitchell report biggest waste of time on the planet. Who cares?? I actually feel bad for the 85 players listed as that left off about 500 to 1,000 or so who should also have been in it. It's only a story in baseball. Bonds was talked about daily for 5 years. Shawn Merriman is never talked about. It's a waste of time. This report will not stop drug use in any sport. There is always something better to go on to. All the players in the 60s and 70s were performance enhanced as well with their amphetemine popping non-stop. They immediately went to HGH, and soon they'll move beyond HGH. It's a lot of money involved. People will continue to cheat in mass numbers. End of story.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Mitchell report biggest waste of time on the planet. Who cares?? I actually feel bad for the 85 players listed as that left off about 500 to 1,000 or so who should also have been in it. It's only a story in baseball. Bonds was talked about daily for 5 years. Shawn Merriman is never talked about. It's a waste of time. This report will not stop drug use in any sport. There is always something better to go on to. All the players in the 60s and 70s were performance enhanced as well with their amphetemine popping non-stop. They immediately went to HGH, and soon they'll move beyond HGH. It's a lot of money involved. People will continue to cheat in mass numbers. End of story.

exactly what i had said in a ealier post.

i'm sick as i think most baseball fans are of hearing about steroids all the time. who cares. its done. time to move on.there will always be newer drugs to use so your not going to stop it just try to control it as best you can

you will never get a handle on this thing, the scope of it is to big, so thier is no way to fairly judge one and leave out the countless others who are going to get away with it

i'm not going to even waste my time reading this report cause i could give a **** less. it was what it was-is what it is . let it go.

put a disclaimer in the front of the record books as costas said(can't believe i even agree with him-hate him) and let people form thier own opinions.

and yes if i had a vote bonds and clemens would be going to the hall of fame

case closed

i'm ready for opening day 2008.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

exactly what i had said in a ealier post.

i'm sick as i think most baseball fans are of hearing about steroids all the time. who cares. its done. time to move on.there will always be newer drugs to use so your not going to stop it just try to control it as best you can

you will never get a handle on this thing, the scope of it is to big, so thier is no way to fairly judge one and leave out the countless others who are going to get away with it

i'm not going to even waste my time reading this report cause i could give a **** less. it was what it was-is what it is . let it go.

put a disclaimer in the front of the record books as costas said(can't believe i even agree with him-hate him) and let people form thier own opinions.

and yes if i had a vote bonds and clemens would be going to the hall of fame

case closed

i'm ready for opening day 2008.

There is a way to get a handle on it. Ask Marion Jones where her medals are.
Ask Ben Johnson what's going on with his. How about Floyd Landis. If the other sports can help curb it by pulling back awards then why can't MLB.
Why? Players association. But to just say let's not worry about it and let's play is a little ignorant. It's a mess and it's wrong and I believe the Mitchell Report is a step towards weeding out some of the scum that made a choice to use the juice.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I heard Costas on ESPN radio this morning.

One item with which I disagree (though this gets into the issue of Hall of Fame voting): Costas said that Bonds and Clemens should be withheld from the Hall on their first ballots. Nonsense. That's not punishment if they are subdequently voted into the Hall.

Either they've satisfied the requirements or they haven't.

That's ludicrous. Who cares...if you really want to get technical you have to ban or withhold everyone for a year who played after 1984 as you have no idea who juiced and who didn't. Very few will admit it openly. I certainly believe Clemens used...but what do you have really?? The testimony of a guy. That's it. flimsy.

[Mortimer]

They should all be shot and replaced with test lab monkeys.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Could there have been any more Mets' catchers on this list?

How did Mitchell miss Jerry Grote?

The ball sure did jump off Al Weis' bat in the fall of 1969 (for one swing, anyway).

Andy P. comes clean.
And Roger had the same trainer and this was his workout partner...

And Andy claims that HGH was not illegal the way he used it. The drug policy in MLB is so screwed up and the rules have changed so many times... The NFL has BANNED HGH since way back, at least 15 years ago.

ANd people try to use the NFL to sanctify MLB....hmmmm. Sure the NFL has problems. But the NFL did not ask George Mitchell to come in and give a report. The Commisioner in the NFL has a little more of a grip than Selig.

I think Selig wants government intervention. No reason to ask for Mitchell to come in and investigate if its all hunky-dory.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Andy P. comes clean.
And Roger had the same trainer and this was his workout partner...

And Andy claims that HGH was not illegal the way he used it. The drug policy in MLB is so screwed up and the rules have changed so many times... The NFL has BANNED HGH since way back, at least 15 years ago.

ANd people try to use the NFL to sanctify MLB....hmmmm. Sure the NFL has problems. But the NFL did not ask George Mitchell to come in and give a report. The Commisioner in the NFL has a little more of a grip than Selig.

I think Selig wants government intervention. No reason to ask for Mitchell to come in and investigate if its all hunky-dory.

However they have no way of testing for it so the ban is a total joke initself. The NFL does a much better job of keeping its PR machine working than does MLB. But after personally speaking to a number of current and former NFL players, I have been told that pretty much everybody is doing something.

[whodey17]

What surprised me the most is that I do not recall seeing Mark McGuire's name on the list.

[Mortimer]

That still doesn't explain why Mark McGuire's name is not in the report.

[Danzig]

like i told my kids this morning, if they're all using it, why bother? the playing field is releveled, right?

they're still cheaters. glad i'm not a baseball fan. i'll stick to football, where they're all pure as the driven snow.....

[packerbacker7964]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

That still doesn't explain why Mark McGuire's name is not in the report.

Because the report only questioned two trainers in baseball not all of them. Mark and Barry's trainers weren't the ones being questioned in the report.

[packerbacker7964]

S fas as Bonds taking them or not the manwent up two full shoe sizes and a 1 7/8 inches in hat size. At his age you quit growing I'd think.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

S fas as Bonds taking them or not the manwent up two full shoe sizes and a 1 7/8 inches in hat size. At his age you quit growing I'd think.

what bar are you and cannon at?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

Because the report only questioned two trainers in baseball not all of them. Mark and Barry's trainers weren't the ones being questioned in the report.

Because Barry's trainer was in jail and McGuire self injected or had his boyfriend Jose do it for him.