Whale's past post sets off alarm

[JJP]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Also, I'd like to hear the teller's explanation for punching the tickets knowing that the race had already gone off.

That's unacceptable, regardless of the explanation that the track is trying to grab every last wagering dollar on each race.

I remember an incident at Arlington in the mid 80s. The gate opens and a 30-1 goes to the lead. A couple tellers realize the machines are still live. Tellers start betting. When the 30-1 shot who went to the lead crossed the wire in front, a near riot ensued when he was now 5-1 on the board. THey did catch the tellers but some real bad PR being the lead story on the 10 pm news. I've always been curious if they could skim some money off the top with late windows; as long as they weren't too greedy, they probably wouldn't get caught. What percentage of the time do payoffs go up from when the horses are loading into the gate? That percentage must be very low since so many winners get hit hard late.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by JJP

I remember an incident at Arlington in the mid 80s. The gate opens and a 30-1 goes to the lead. A couple tellers realize the machines are still live. Tellers start betting. When the 30-1 shot who went to the lead crossed the wire in front, a near riot ensued when he was now 5-1 on the board. THey did catch the tellers but some real bad PR being the lead story on the 10 pm news. I've always been curious if they could skim some money off the top with late windows; as long as they weren't too greedy, they probably wouldn't get caught. What percentage of the time do payoffs go up from when the horses are loading into the gate? That percentage must be very low since so many winners get hit hard late.

As far as changing odds are concerned, it's only visible to the public if the money is bet in the Win pool... if it were placed in the exotic pools, all you would see would be surprisingly low payouts, which we do see all the time (although we can't be sure as to why).

I have really only been shut out of one bet that I absolutely wanted to make.. that was over a year ago, and it occurred when lightning struck the simulcast parlor, and the electricity went out with 7 minutes to post... came back on as they were loading.

[golfer]

Dave Johnson (who was the moderator of the symposium) just said on his Sirius radio show that Mike Maloney claims that his specific story about betting after a race starts was NOT an isolated incident!