Franchise Delay Hangs Over Trainers

[ELA]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

And why should NYRA agree to run things on a possible interim basis because the politicians have screwed this up beyond belief?

They won't......and they shouldn't.

Give them the full extension.....or fight them in court over the land. They're a lot stronger than people seem to realize and they hold the cards.

I agree, they shouldn't. I wasn't sure they wouldn't though. Only reason being, if anyone else came in, that might not be a strategically good step in the right direction. It's moot though as you are right about continuing the litigation/bankruptcy side. As those who know said from day one -- the land was the ace.

Eric

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by ELA

I agree, they shouldn't. I wasn't sure they wouldn't though. Only reason being, if anyone else came in, that might not be a strategically good step in the right direction. It's moot though as you are right about continuing the litigation/bankruptcy side. As those who know said from day one -- the land was the ace.

Eric

When asked about the franchise situation early in 2006, John Nerud told the At the Races audience that NYRA owned the land/facilities and a court would rule that way should it get to litigation.. He was resolute that there would be no way for the state to simply wrangle away the issue, and if they didn't approach it in good faith there would be a hassle. Nerud has only been right about everything in racing for the last 75 years..

[sumitas]

It's the NYRA's land, why shouldn't they get the racing franchise ? And what has taken Bruno 6 years to get the vlt into Aqueduct ? This guy has some explaining to do.

[Linny]

Its the little guys who would get hurt in a shutdown, even if it were for just a few weeks. The big guys can get out of town and take their help with them. Small operations with mosty NYbreds and cheap stock who look forward to AQU so they can make some $$$ and who don't have money to put horses on vans to PHA etc will get hurt. The man with 6 horses, one hotwalker and one groom, with 2 kids in school in NYC can't just up and walk out of town. If there is no racing he gets no money and he still has mouths to feed, human and equine.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Linny

Its the little guys who would get hurt in a shutdown, even if it were for just a few weeks. The big guys can get out of town and take their help with them. Small operations with mosty NYbreds and cheap stock who look forward to AQU so they can make some $$$ and who don't have money to put horses on vans to PHA etc will get hurt. The man with 6 horses, one hotwalker and one groom, with 2 kids in school in NYC can't just up and walk out of town. If there is no racing he gets no money and he still has mouths to feed, human and equine.

Well then it's a good thing there won't be a shutdown.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Well then it's a good thing there won't be a shutdown.

Andrew, I very much hope that you are correct....are you basing your statement on any solid info/news??

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

Andrew, I very much hope that you are correct....are you basing your statement on any solid info/news??

No. I prefer to use common sense.

OK, I do know one thing, I heard John DaSilva say on Byk's show that a shutdown was a certainty.

Let me retract.....I only used common sense.

[Linny]

I'm glad you are so confident, but some of the trainers I know are less so. I hope you are right.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Linny

I'm glad you are so confident, but some of the trainers I know are less so. I hope you are right.

And I am sorry for their concerns. I hope during this franchise process they were also doing all they could to help this situation reach a fair conclusion.

Yeah, I know, that's not completely fair. But considering the behavoir of some horsemen during the past couple of years, as regards this mess, it is hard for me to shed a lot of tears for everyone.

[whodey17]

It would be a sad day to see operations cease in New York. There is plenty of blame to go around. I doubt we see an interruption. However, I would like to see a business model that actually works from any group.

[freddymo]

Wow you all "Know" the land is NYRA's that's so funny considering counsel for both sides "think" they are right

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by sumitas

It's the NYRA's land, why shouldn't they get the racing franchise ? And what has taken Bruno 6 years to get the vlt into Aqueduct ? This guy has some explaining to do.

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/