Worse KY Derby winner...

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Worse than Giacomo?

You have left the building dude.

I realize you were still in diapers when Sea Hero won, but he did win the Champagne as a 2YO and the Travers as a 3YO.

Was he a monster? No. But he did win some decent races besides the Derby.

Absolutely agree. Sea Hero wasn't exactly consistent, but he could really pick his spots. How many others have pulled this triple?

I think it's Lil E Tee, losing to Giacomo by a nose. Giacomo ran decently in the triple crown series, and he did beat Afleet Alex. L E T...I can't recall anything of note.

War Emblem had a great 3 race stretch, bias or not. His Preakness was huge with the pace pressure he put away that day.

Boy that Thunder Gulch sure sucked.

[Bravado2112]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

I think it's Lil E Tee, losing to Giacomo by a nose. Giacomo ran decently in the triple crown series, and he did beat Afleet Alex. L E T...I can't recall anything of note.

Lil E Tee? Really?

Lil E Tee was actually a pretty decent horse - certainly better than some of the horses mentioned in this thread like Giacomo and Sea Hero. His Derby win earned a 107 Beyer (well ahead of Giacomo's 100 and a number that compares favorably with the average recent Derby winning fig) and his overall record was 13: 7-4-1.

He was 3 for 6 as a three year old with wins in the Derby and Jim Beam, and a neck loss to Pine Bluff in the Arkansas Derby. He got hurt after the Preakness and didn't run again that year. He returned at 4 going 2 for 3, winning the Razorback and running 2nd in the Oaklawn Handicap before getting hurt again and being retired.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Bravado2112

Lil E Tee? Really?

Lil E Tee was actually a pretty decent horse - certainly better than some of the horses mentioned in this thread like Giacomo and Sea Hero. His Derby win earned a 107 Beyer (well ahead of Giacomo's 100 and a number that compares favorably with the average recent Derby winning fig) and his overall record was 13: 7-4-1.

He was 3 for 6 as a three year old with wins in the Derby and Jim Beam, and a neck loss to Pine Bluff in the Arkansas Derby. He got hurt after the Preakness and didn't run again that year. He returned at 4 going 2 for 3, winning the Razorback and running 2nd in the Oaklawn Handicap before getting hurt again and being retired.

I agree. I've never understood the lack of love for Lil E Tee. You win over half your career races including the Ky Derby, and the only race you are out of the money in your life is in the Preakness, I'd say you're a pretty decent horse. OF recent Derby winners I'd rate him at least as good as or better than are Giacomo, Funny Cide, War Emblem, Charismatic, Grindstone, Go For Gin, Sea Hero. I think I posted this earlier in the thread...so this post is pretty much useless.