Worse KY Derby winner...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Worse than Giacomo?

You have left the building dude.

I realize you were still in diapers when Sea Hero won, but he did win the Champagne as a 2YO and the Travers as a 3YO.

Was he a monster? No. But he did win some decent races besides the Derby.

First of all, I still am in diapers.

Second of all, I followed national racing closely in '93 as we got feeds from all major tracks on cable here, and Sea Hero was an inconsistant dog biscuit. He was 0-for-11 with just ONE 2nd place finish on fast tracks besides his heroic Derby and Travers eyesore wins.

Third of all, your boy who started this thread asked for the worst Derby winner since '84 - not the least accomplished. So Sea Hero's wins in the Champagne over the oh so fabulous stayer Secret Odds and his win in the Travers over the 4-for-35 lifetime Kissin Kris don't translate to performance points like they do to acomplishment points.

Fourth of all, I bet on Giacomo in the Derby and even relentlessly touted him to the message board world before the race. Which means I had to (no doubt very wrongly) think he had some ability to go along with the dream race shape he was going to get in the race.

Fifth of all, Giacomo's mastery of Sun King - a dominant 3-for-3 in head-to-head matchups - really underlines the point that......nevermind - Sun King blows. Bad example.

Giacomo might be the second worst Derby winner since '84...but, lets not overlook all of his fine qualities. He has an Italian name, he won me money, and he was 4th beaten just four lengths to Invasor, Bernardini, and Premium Tap in the final start of his career. Sea Hero finished his career as a 4yo with seven straight losses - and went off at 7/2 or less in each and every one of those starts.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Fifth of all, Giacomo's mastery of Sun King - a dominant 3-for-3 in head-to-head matchups - really underlines the point that......nevermind - Sun King blows. Bad example.

Giacomo might be the second worst Derby winner since '84...but, lets not overlook all of his fine qualities. He has an Italian name, he won me money, and he was 4th beaten just four lengths to Invasor, Bernardini, and Premium Tap in the final start of his career. Sea Hero finished his career as a 4yo with seven straight losses - and went off at 7/2 or less in each and every one of those starts.

Giacomo was a better horse than ever given credit for....even if he was the 2nd worst Derby winner.