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Old 11-05-2007, 03:54 PM
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The reason why everyone knows Dutrow is a cheater is because what happens when he claims horses or takes them from other trainers.
I have NO doubt at all that Dutrow is a cheater.

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A good trainer can move a horse up a little, but he certainly can't move him up 15-20 beyer numbers.
Really?

How would you assess the two trainers of this horse? By your definition, the second trainer is most likely a cheater when they jumped the horse up 20 points after one race ! :

Beyers: 41-67-44-60-70 - new trainer - 64-84-91-86-85
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:20 PM
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I have NO doubt at all that Dutrow is a cheater.



Really?

How would you assess the two trainers of this horse? By your definition, the second trainer is most likely a cheater when they jumped the horse up 20 points after one race ! :

Beyers: 41-67-44-60-70 - new trainer - 64-84-91-86-85
Trick question
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:35 PM
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Trick question
Have some pie
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:03 PM
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Finally - trainer named Jim calls in to ATR and complains about the "guilty until proven innocent" mindset of many.
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:45 PM
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Finally - trainer named Jim calls in to ATR and complains about the "guilty until proven innocent" mindset of many.
Yeah, that's probably the best way to look at it

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Old 11-06-2007, 04:46 PM
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Byk, I don't want to call in, can you please ask him WHO is actually administering these drugs on race day? Assistant trainers/trainers/bad vets?
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:04 PM
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Great half hour, Steve. You did right by asking the question flat out, and I appreciated his forthright answer.
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