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[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by TeddyRex

Armed militants across the border in Mexico sent 70 rockets pounding into urban areas of San Diego. The Mexican government stated that there was nothing they could or would do about this attack. Three hundred and twenty people died in the attack.

The UN has told the US to show restraint in regards to the attack.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF THIS WERE TRUE?

Oy, oy, oy....

Well, if the U.S. was occupying Tijuana or Juarez or Metamoras illegally when this happened then I'd feel pissed off if I was a Mexican.

And if the U.S. had a long-standing history of of negotiating with extremist groups and trading 400 prisoners to get one back (a la Israel), well I'd feel pretty pissed off about that too.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Oy, oy, oy....

Well, if the U.S. was occupying Tijuana or Juarez or Metamoras illegally when this happened then I'd feel pissed off if I was a Mexican.

And if the U.S. had a long-standing history of of negotiating with extremist groups and trading 400 prisoners to get one back (a la Israel), well I'd feel pretty pissed off about that too.

What a bunch of crap...I'd feel Ok because by the time the defenders of terrorism like yourself posted crap like this, the US Military would be standing on a pile of ashes that once was Northern Mexico!

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

What a bunch of crap...I'd feel Ok because by the time the defenders of terrorism like yourself posted crap like this, the US Military would be standing on a pile of ashes that once was Northern Mexico!

Nah, I'm not a supporter of terrorism. No way. But I do think the Palestinians and the Lebanese have a right to be pissed off.

Why is it that if someone doesn't see the world the way the staunchest pro-Israeli folks see it they are automatically American-haters and supporters of terrorism?

That I do not understand. Like billions of people, I just see the world differently than you.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Nah, I'm not a supporter of terrorism. No way. But I do think the Palestinians and the Lebanese have a right to be pissed off.

Why is it that if someone doesn't see the world the way the staunchest pro-Israeli folks see it they are automatically American-haters and supporters of terrorism?

That I do not understand. Like billions of people, I just see the world differently than you.

You have every right to see the world any way you want...but read your reply, in responding to a terrorist attack that takes hundreds of innocent American lives, likely many women and children, you editoralize on occupation and past methodology....some folks try way to hard to prove they are intelligent...guess what, so am I! In fact if folks want to compare IQ's....anyway, not important. My response to such an attack....BOOOOM!!!!

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

You have every right to see the world any way you want...but read your reply, in responding to a terrorist attack that takes hundreds of innocent American lives, likely many women and children, you editoralize on occupation and past methodology....some folks try way to hard to prove they are intelligent...guess what, so am I! In fact if folks want to compare IQ's....anyway, not important. My response to such an attack....BOOOOM!!!!

Oy. Well, you go on and twist it whatever way your high IQ will alow. And, if it doesn't tax your intellect, answer this... Do the Palestinians have any valid grievances against Israel? That's a simple enough question. I am rapt awaiting your response.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Oy. Well, you go on and twist it whatever way your high IQ will alow. And, if it doesn't tax your intellect, answer this... Do the Palestinians have any valid grievances against Israel? That's a simple enough question. I am rapt awaiting your response.

Of course they have valid grievances, but they have equally valid grievances against Syria, Iran and the entire terrorist world that uses their grief and honest anger to turn them into cannon fodder. There are lots of folks that I feel I have honest grievances against...I'm not allowed to kill them or their families and children...nor would I want to do so! You can't rationalize away the cold hard fact that terrorists are evil and cannot be reasoned with...if you live next door to one, I'm sorry for your situation but I'd strongly advise you to move!

[timmgirvan]

The Palestinians should have grievances against their decades of leaders and the other Arab countries that have used them as pawns in political BS!

[SentToStud]

Damn! Palestinians can't get no love from anyone. Well, here's my last contribution to a torrid topic.

1. Terrorism is bad.
2. Hezbo is bad. Much of Hamas too. So too are the other half-dozen or so other etremist Islamic groups as well as the far-right -of-right Zionists who wish ill on Arab people regardless of nationalilty or religion.
3. No easily named "good guys" or "bad guys" in this.
4. It's a failure of politics. WTF did people expect to happen in Lebanon? Fledgling democracy fairly ignored by the West with Hezbo ALLOWED to participate politically.
5. I'm not nuts about the Israelis' past history of negotiating trades of prisoners.
6. Not all Arabs want to see the Israelis pushed into the sea. Certainly I do not.
7. Much of the non-US, non-Israel world sees the rise of terrorism as the unfortunate result of the Palestinian issue. Without that issue resolved, the legitimacy of these radical groups does increase. Right or wrong.
8. Whatever happened to the "roadmap" to peace? Plenty of blame to go around.
9. I do believe the "lasting peace" goes through Palestine and the implementation of a two-state solution.
10. Wherever and whomever your thoughts are with, I hope you and yours stay safe.

No offenses meant and certainly none taken. Truly the issue of our time.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

The Palestinians should have grievances against their decades of leaders and the other Arab countries that have used them as pawns in political BS!

Tim ... I made that point 47 times on another thread.

Arabia is the homeland for Arabs ... it's a very large and wealthy country ... yet its rulers keep Palestinians ... a/k/a Judean Arabs ... out of there at the point of a gun ... and so do all the other countries run by their Arab "brethren."

Yet the Palestinians are convinced that teeny-tiny Israel is their enemy and oppressor. Can the Palestinians be dumber? It's hard to see how.