Funny cide in washington park ??

[ArlJim78]

If Freefourinternet could beat Perfect Drift at Hawthorne then I'm going to say that FunnyCide would definitely have a chance to do the same at Arlington.

I don't know if this match-up is really going to happen but I gotta say that it would be great all around for racing to have these two warriors hook up. They both have their flaws but the fact that they're still racing is exciting.

I mentioned before, jokingly because I didn't think they would actually meet, that if FC and PD were to race against each other that this board would self destruct due to the massive amount of debate that would surely ensue between the "Funny Ciders" and the "Drifters".

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

if FC and PD were to race against each other that this board would self destruct due to the massive amount of debate that would surely ensue between the "Funny Ciders" and the "Drifters".

Probably not. I think a lot of people are both. Its called the OCDGFC.
"Old Classic-Division Geldings Fan Club".

PD would kill FC. No contest.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by TeddyRex

PD would kill FC. No contest.

Possibly, but PD has burned up quite a bit of win money in his time and FC doesn't succumb without a fight.

I'm sure at this point PD would be a deserving favorite but I would love to see the stretch duel.

[Danzig]

lol

PD would KILL fc?? maybe a couple years ago, pd's best, when he won against mineshaft and congaree. but he's not quite the same as he was then. i think it would be an interesting race. and now declans moon is back as well. thank goodness for geldings....

maybe they should have a gelding incentive fund! pay out a bigger purse to those without their..er...essentials...

[1st_Saturday_in_May]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

lol

PD would KILL fc?? maybe a couple years ago, pd's best, when he won against mineshaft and congaree. but he's not quite the same as he was then. i think it would be an interesting race. and now declans moon is back as well. thank goodness for geldings....

maybe they should have a gelding incentive fund! pay out a bigger purse to those without their..er...essentials...

I do think Perfect Drift is good for about 8-10 Beyer points more than Funny Cide these days when both are their best. Perfect Drift, however, will do anything to keep himself out of the winner's circle so he could conceivably run well below his potential to lose by a head, and generally does it seems. Maybe he thinks the camera steals his soul...if thats the case he should tell Barbara Livingstone to stay away. Perfect Drift is great for second but has no heart to win - Funny Cide on the other hand has all the heart to win and I'd love to see both here or against one another in the future. Lets also not forget that Perfect Drift is still competitive against Grade 1 competition - Brass Hat, Buzzards Bay, Flower Alley, Borrego, Lava Man, etc. in the last two years. It has taken a strong drop in class for Funny Cide to regain his form against Nolan's Cat, Gold and Roses, West Virginia, etc. Perfect Drift right now IMO is a much better horse and will earn several times what Funny Cide will this year, but if the two went head to head it would be much closer than it should be.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May

I do think Perfect Drift is good for about 8-10 Beyer points more than Funny Cide these days when both are their best. Perfect Drift, however, will do anything to keep himself out of the winner's circle so he could conceivably run well below his potential to lose by a head, and generally does it seems. Maybe he thinks the camera steals his soul...if thats the case he should tell Barbara Livingstone to stay away. Perfect Drift is great for second but has no heart to win - Funny Cide on the other hand has all the heart to win and I'd love to see both here or against one another in the future. Lets also not forget that Perfect Drift is still competitive against Grade 1 competition - Brass Hat, Buzzards Bay, Flower Alley, Borrego, Lava Man, etc. in the last two years. It has taken a strong drop in class for Funny Cide to regain his form against Nolan's Cat, Gold and Roses, West Virginia, etc. Perfect Drift right now IMO is a much better horse and will earn several times what Funny Cide will this year, but if the two went head to head it would be much closer than it should be.

are you kidding me MR BEYER?LOL , that 99 beyer in the foster is a joke if no one doesnt think pd broke 100 at least 102, whoever gave out a 99 for that race was sleeping. i think bris gave drift a 102 or 103, beyer your biased as hell, NO HEART TO WIN whatever roses he won last year he gets barley nipped at the wire couldnt see seek gold to dig back down, that race was as good as a win, you say he has no heart to win he's only lost and took alot of 2nds to THE BEST HORSES IN THE GAME AND HORSES OF THE YEAR mineshaft congaree, plestaly perfect, roses in may, saint liam, gz, i could go on and on trust me roses he HAS THE HEART TO WIN

[1st_Saturday_in_May]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

are you kidding me MR BEYER?LOL , that 99 beyer in the foster is a joke if no one doesnt think pd broke 100 at least 102, whoever gave out a 99 for that race was sleeping. i think bris gave drift a 102 or 103, beyer your biased as hell, NO HEART TO WIN whatever roses he won last year he gets barley nipped at the wire couldnt see seek gold to dig back down, that race was as good as a win, you say he has no heart to win he's only lost and took alot of 2nds to THE BEST HORSES IN THE GAME AND HORSES OF THE YEAR mineshaft congaree, plestaly perfect, roses in may, saint liam, gz, i could go on and on trust me roses he HAS THE HEART TO WIN

I was agreeing with you. I said Perfect Drift is far superior to Funny Cide. As for no heart to win - yeah he won ONCE last year against junk and tell yourself he couldnt see Seek Gold yada yada yada. Guidry was all over him - at least 20 whips - and he just wanted to be with the pack. Same goes for his loss to Roses in May in the Whitney two years ago. He just doesnt want to win - pack mentality like a lot of horses have - its an animal instinct not wanting to be away from the pack and he doesnt see himself as the alpha male. Settle down.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

lol

PD would KILL fc?? maybe a couple years ago, pd's best, when he won against mineshaft and congaree. but he's not quite the same as he was then. i think it would be an interesting race. and now declans moon is back as well. thank goodness for geldings....

maybe they should have a gelding incentive fund! pay out a bigger purse to those without their..er...essentials...

kill him, no but beat fc yes danzig all you got to do is look at the pps in your racing form and think about your answer again if youthink hes in the same class lol

[Danzig]

nowhere in there did i say FC would win. i just don't think PD would 'kill' him.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Probably not. I think a lot of people are both. Its called the OCDGFC.
"Old Classic-Division Geldings Fan Club".

I would count myself in the OCDGFC, but loyalties would be put to the test.
Would love to see it though, it would be a big day for Arlington. Much better than PD versus a bunch of mules as someone else put it.

Either way I'm there to see it.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I mentioned before, jokingly because I didn't think they would actually meet, that if FC and PD were to race against each other that this board would self destruct due to the massive amount of debate that would surely ensue between the "Funny Ciders" and the "Drifters".

... and would be so very, very entertaining to read!

I still remember GPK's comment to BuffyM on the ESPN board about winning his handicapping contest, and that, if she picked a PD hat as one of her two prize hats that "even the hat would get there second." One of his best bon mots EVER.

(Buffy, I like PD, too. But it was still a funny comment.)

Funny Cide is definitely headed to Arlington.

[Scav]

No way, it is suppose to be lower to mid 90's with some SERIOUS humidity, Tagg would never ship into that, with him knowing that the weather won't be to his favor....

Originally Posted by Scav

No way, it is suppose to be lower to mid 90's with some SERIOUS humidity, Tagg would never ship into that, with him knowing that the weather won't be to his favor....

There just aren't any races available for him. They won't throw him back in with the top horses in the Whitney of Suburban. I think the 9F distance in the Philip H Iselin Breeders Cup at Monmouth is too short for him.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by boldruler

There just aren't any races available for him. They won't throw him back in with the top horses in the Whitney of Suburban. I think the 9F distance in the Philip H Iselin Breeders Cup at Monmouth is too short for him.

Understandable...But Tagg, as you say, cares about the horse, and with this bring true, he isn't going to run him in a situation where he is going to be uncomfortable. Last night they were saying rain/88 degrees/90% humidity...Today on weather.com, it is more favorable. I want nothing more but to be able to see him in person, but I just don't think Tagg will ship into that environment, also, with the publicity that Arlington is getting for breakdowns, which yesterday there were one serious one, and another that was vanned off.....Too many negatives IMO

Originally Posted by Scav

Understandable...But Tagg, as you say, cares about the horse, and with this bring true, he isn't going to run him in a situation where he is going to be uncomfortable. Last night they were saying rain/88 degrees/90% humidity...Today on weather.com, it is more favorable. I want nothing more but to be able to see him in person, but I just don't think Tagg will ship into that environment, also, with the publicity that Arlington is getting for breakdowns, which yesterday there were one serious one, and another that was vanned off.....Too many negatives IMO

You are probably correct. The weather is strike one, but the breakdown thing is strikes 2 and 3. The race at Monmouth is still a good race for him and the owners probably will be pushing him to the Suburban (at the spa) which could come up light. Definitely no Whitney for him.

Tagg has a very interesting horse though in Lael's Auguri that might find his way into one of these races.

The Big Guy in the barn though is definitely a go for the Secretariat. He is back to being sharp as ever.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

... and would be so very, very entertaining to read!

I still remember GPK's comment to BuffyM on the ESPN board about winning his handicapping contest, and that, if she picked a PD hat as one of her two prize hats that "even the hat would get there second." One of his best bon mots EVER.

(Buffy, I like PD, too. But it was still a funny comment.)

Your right hun, that was one of my better ones

Here are the PP. Funny Cide would be very competitive here.

http://www.arlingtonpark.com/racing_...pps%202006.pdf

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by GPK

Your right hun, that was one of my better ones

I will admit, it was a funny comment.

P.S. Ya know my husband has stolen that hat!

By the way, 1st Sat said it best. Look at the competition the two geldings are running against. PD is much the better horse, but it would be a close race.