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Old 10-12-2007, 10:43 AM
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Jalil only second........ not a great hanicap. I think we can safely say he's only moderate at best.

They bought a Mr Greeley last year for about 5 million, who i have been informed is also tripe.

Both coolmore and Godolphin will be treading carefully in future i imagine...... no HUGE buys from now on, i doubt.
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:23 AM
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Jalil only second........ not a great hanicap. I think we can safely say he's only moderate at best.

They bought a Mr Greeley last year for about 5 million, who i have been informed is also tripe.

Both coolmore and Godolphin will be treading carefully in future i imagine...... no HUGE buys from now on, i doubt.
I have you sussed now. You're Horse Racing's equivalent to Radio Moscow in the Soviet era.

Jalil's 2nd. Some other horse is tripe. Not one word that Godolphin had 4 winners today before the Jalil race. You presumably don't want the Americans on here to know that.
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:38 AM
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Sorry I've quickly read threw this nonsense-must have missed it's start whilst I was in Saratoga.

Radio Moscow was well at work with his pronouncements trying to con the Americans into believing that he was the fountain of knowledge on all things Godolphin.

Loved the bit about Simon Crisford. Got a job at a stud farm and then he was a racing journalist.

Doesn't mention that he was an Assisant trainer to Sir Mark Prescott for 2 years-that's possibly the toughest assistantship that anyone can have as Prescott runs a military operation.

Crisford moved onto be the gallops correspondent for the Racing Post because he couldn't afford to buy a stable. Prescott's other assistant Adrian Lee moved to Michael Jarvis and then bought a stable which nearly bankrupted him. Even back in 1987-8 when Adrian set up we were talking well over £200,000 (probably around $350,000 then) just to buy the stable.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:30 PM
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Well...... i'm sorrrry, but when you have been best friends with someone who has worked for Godolphin for many years now who will tell you exactly how useless Simon Crisford is. I've heard all the stories. He tries to train the horses and has no idea.

Neil Graham who was doing a good job there. He suggested something to Crisford, the next morning Crisford was on the phone to Graham and was told he had to go. Resignation letter through his door the next day for him to sign.

Did they have four winners? I know of three, but didn't realise they had four. I backed all three of them. The 2yo winner at Lingfield is very good and god knows how it was allowed to go off at 10/1.

Crisford couldn't afford a stable? pull the other one. He comes form a very wealthy family.... another reason how he managed to get in at Prescott's. You also didn't mention the fact he worked at Lavington, along with someone i used to work with. Crisford was scared of the horses there and was given all the good jobs..... surprise surprise.

I spoke only about Jalil because i had mentioned he was running in a previous post about him running on the all weather and thought he could do better on that surface, but obviously not. The Mr greeley, well, i was having a drink with my friend up at Tatts today and he was telling me just how bad it was.

I'm not a fan how the operation is run. You can think what you like about Crisford, but if you ask any employee at Godolphin, they will all give you the same answer, which would be "he's a joke". The staff are only there because of the money. As soon as my friend finishes his stock broker exams, he is out of there.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:45 PM
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May i ask what you thought about the actual article?

Most of the lads that work there read it and said it was as close to the truth as it could get.

The person i feel sorry for is Saeed, he gets the blame from the majority of the media when things aren't going right, but the truth is that he does very little of the training on the inside. I'm told he is an exceptional horse man, but many things get done over his head, which is a shame.

They have changed tactics of late and it seems to have worked. They have three different yards and up until about three weeks ago they kept moving all of the horses around. They walked and trotted at the pre training yard, and then they went to a different yard to canter and then to the other yard to work and race......... now to most that sounds stupid, and it wasn't working as there was next to no communication between the yards. Now though, they do everything at each yard, so the staff get to know each horse and know where they are with each of them. Since they have done this their two year olds (especially) are beginning to show their sparkle. It has certainly made a big difference into their form.
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Jalil only second........ not a great hanicap. I think we can safely say he's only moderate at best.
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Could you ask Godolphin how much they want for Jalil. I have £2.50 in my wallet at the moment. Will that be enough?
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I think i could get both for that amount..... and get change!

They are both useless. I'd like to see a race between them. They would start on a saturday, and finish on Monday.

Seriously though, over the last few weeks, my friend has been riding Jalil and the only words he has come up with are "pig" and "useless".


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Old 03-09-2008, 08:55 AM
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I wanna know why they kept running him on turf if they apparently knew he was that good on dirt. It is quite a change that the surface has brought out. He was just very moderate on turf, when he raced on it and when he galloped on it at home. As soon as he races on dirt, he's a hit.

Still not getting carried away with him, though. Not a world cup horse in my eyes.
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Mate Talking to coolmore today they Hate Darley with a untold passion !!!!
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To me it's the great fight.... K Mart Vs Harrods

Who will win at this early stage to me it looks like Darley with it's nose in front
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Mate Talking to coolmore today they Hate Darley with a untold passion !!!!
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"Darley clients are different than our clients darley's clients will buy anything they will buy crap as they serve it that way our clients are not worried about the price as they are interested in quality half of darleys stallions shouldnt even be at stud " Unquote

To me it's the great fight.... K Mart Vs Harrods

Who will win at this early stage to me it looks like Darley with it's nose in front
You only have to look at how Coolmore stallions are doing compared to Darley.

Royal Ascot is the premier meeting in Europe as far as many owners are concerned. So far, Godolphin have had nothing good enough to run in the major races and Coolmore have already scooped two of the major prizes.
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Their $11 million dollar yearling purchase makes his debut at Newmarket today as a three year old.
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The field...

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