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Old 10-10-2007, 02:24 PM
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Mau Duw, I agree with Morti...I thought this was impossible...



Think Dylan Thomas here.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:18 PM
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If I had to rank the top 10 hitters in baseball as of right now, I think I would have to go with this;

1. David Ortiz
2. Albert Pujols
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Manny Ramirez
5. Vladimir Guerrero
6. Ryan Howard
7. Matt Holliday
8. Magglio Ordóñez
9. Chase Utley
10. Todd Helton or Ichiro Suzuki

Again, just in my opinion...however, you could swap 3-20 on most lists and probably have a valid arguement for each...
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:00 PM
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If I had to rank the top 10 hitters in baseball as of right now, I think I would have to go with this;

1. David Ortiz
2. Albert Pujols
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Manny Ramirez
5. Vladimir Guerrero
6. Ryan Howard
7. Matt Holliday
8. Magglio Ordóñez
9. Chase Utley
10. Todd Helton or Ichiro Suzuki

Again, just in my opinion...however, you could swap 3-20 on most lists and probably have a valid arguement for each...
Howard too high though I have a hard time understanding how Arod and Pujols arent 1 and 2
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:02 PM
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Howard too high though I have a hard time understanding how Arod and Pujols arent 1 and 2
A-Rod?


You mean Mr. August?
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:23 AM
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Howard too high though I have a hard time understanding how Arod and Pujols arent 1 and 2
I would give it to Ortiz because he is so clutch. No better clutch hitter.


Over the last 5 years;

ARod - .300 avg, 28 2B, 2 3B, 44 HR, 126 RBI, .401 OBP

Ortiz - .302 avg, 41 2B, 2 3B, 44 HR, 128 RBI, .401 OBP

Pujols- .336 avg, 42 2B, 1 3B, 42 HR, 121 RBI, .429 OBP


Based on that, I have no problem with Pujols being #1. I would still say ARod is #3, easily.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:24 AM
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Golly...no love for Jhonny Peralta?
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:28 AM
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Golly...no love for Jhonny Peralta?
Career .270 and under he might make the top 25.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:40 AM
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But the bonus is he's a slug of a shortstop.




He's a living,breathing conunigma.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:00 PM
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I would give it to Ortiz because he is so clutch. No better clutch hitter.


Over the last 5 years;

ARod - .300 avg, 28 2B, 2 3B, 44 HR, 126 RBI, .401 OBP

Ortiz - .302 avg, 41 2B, 2 3B, 44 HR, 128 RBI, .401 OBP

Pujols- .336 avg, 42 2B, 1 3B, 42 HR, 121 RBI, .429 OBP


Based on that, I have no problem with Pujols being #1. I would still say ARod is #3, easily.
The fact that Pujols strikes out far less than both probably helps too.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:03 PM
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The fact that Pujols strikes out far less than both probably helps too.
In addition Pujols doesnt have someone like Manny behind him in the order. I think Pujuols is the best out of the Arod, Ortiz and Pujols.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:09 PM
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The fact that Pujols strikes out far less than both probably helps too.

Agreed.

I just can't get over how many clutch hits Ortiz has (Sox fan or not). He just wins or puts them back into so many games. Without him, there would have been no Ring, and far less if any playoff appearances. He is just clutch. That puts him #1 in my book, but I have no arguement with anyone putting Pujols #1. ARod shouldn't crack the top 2. Like it or not, his October performances should be looked at when talking about the best hitters in the game.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:12 PM
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Agreed.

I just can't get over how many clutch hits Ortiz has (Sox fan or not). He just wins or puts them back into so many games. Without him, there would have been no Ring, and far less if any playoff appearances. He is just clutch. That puts him #1 in my book, but I have no arguement with anyone putting Pujols #1. ARod shouldn't crack the top 2. Like it or not, his October performances should be looked at when talking about the best hitters in the game.
Why should Arod's Oct numbers factor into the equation. A month's work doesnt make a season. But if you want to include them, how about his .313 in 97 ALDS, .308 in the 00 ALDS, .409 in the 00 ALCS, .421 in the 04 ALDS? The you can look at Ortiz, .231 in the 02 ALDS, .095 in the 03 ALDS, .269 in the 03 ALCS. Point being that the best of the best have cold and hot streaks at any point in the season. And think of this, Arod is only about 2000 hits away from breaking Pete Rose's all time hits record. If he plays (Arod) 12 more years, he has a real shot at passing Rose.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:30 PM
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If I had to rank the top 10 hitters in baseball as of right now, I think I would have to go with this;

1. David Ortiz
2. Albert Pujols
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Manny Ramirez
5. Vladimir Guerrero
6. Ryan Howard
7. Matt Holliday
8. Magglio Ordóñez
9. Chase Utley
10. Todd Helton or Ichiro Suzuki

Again, just in my opinion...however, you could swap 3-20 on most lists and probably have a valid arguement for each...
I'd go more like:
1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Albert Pujols
3. David Ortiz
4. Matt Holliday (Coors Field isn't quite so hitter friendly as it was)
5. Ichiro
6. Hanley Ramirez
7. David Wright
8. Carlos Lee
9. Magglio Ordonez
10. Vladimir Guerrero
11. Miguel Cabrera (just cause I didn't feel right leaving his fatass off)
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