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Old 10-08-2007, 07:25 PM
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So in comparison how does this compare to the snide remarks thrown not too long ago about some individuals not getting ESPN in jail?

This lady is a reporter with class unlike others, not saying that Jerry B, Randy M etc don't quite the contrary. To throw her under the bus on this is laughable at best from my eyes, and I do respect your opinion Chuck Simon as you make your living in this business. With that said, she did what she is paid to do, reported what she knows from her "source", "sources" and life goes on. She brings more to most broadcasts then she gets credit for - she speaks with a clear concise voice, well spoken and has knowledge of the game inside out.

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Old 10-08-2007, 07:47 PM
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So in comparison how does this compare to the snide remarks thrown not too long ago about some individuals not getting ESPN in jail?

This lady is a reporter with class unlike others, not saying that Jerry B, Randy M etc don't quite the contrary. To throw her under the bus on this is laughable at best from my eyes, and I do respect your opinion Chuck Simon as you make your living in this business. With that said, she did what she is paid to do, reported what she knows from her "source", "sources" and life goes on. She brings more to most broadcasts then she gets credit for - she speaks with a clear concise voice, well spoken and has knowledge of the game inside out.

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If you can't understand the difference between snide remarks about a couple of criminals in jail and spreading unfounded rumors about a horse being vanned off the track with a broken leg then there is nothing more that I can say that you will get.

Her camera prescence or voice have nothing to do with this. Suggesting that this horse may have been compromised before the race and using "unnamed sources" is a cheap, sensationalistic job of reporting. If she had some real evidence or the matter had been brought up before the horse ran, I have no problem with them rehashing it.

And though my personal feeling is that this horse has been mismanaged pretty much his whole career, there is zero shot that if a prominent trainer has trained this horse there would have never been any mention of "unnamed sources".
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:01 PM
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I wonder if Edwards ever reported that ""unnamed keeneland officials" said that a horse worked great? or would that not be newsworthy? or sensational enough?

She should man-up errr women-up and name the offical(s)...I bet it was one of the John Deere drivers...
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:18 PM
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So in comparison how does this compare to the snide remarks thrown not too long ago about some individuals not getting ESPN in jail?

This lady is a reporter with class unlike others, not saying that Jerry B, Randy M etc don't quite the contrary. To throw her under the bus on this is laughable at best from my eyes, and I do respect your opinion Chuck Simon as you make your living in this business. With that said, she did what she is paid to do, reported what she knows from her "source", "sources" and life goes on. She brings more to most broadcasts then she gets credit for - she speaks with a clear concise voice, well spoken and has knowledge of the game inside out.

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There is a Grand Jury who says Curlin's owners are guilty and the evidence will be shown, true or not in court. Edwards will never name her source and is that guy who talks to dead people related to her? That's the situation that's comparable to me. "I'm getting a message from a clocker?" LMAO
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:44 PM
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There is a Grand Jury who says Curlin's owners are guilty and the evidence will be shown, true or not in court. Edwards will never name her source and is that guy who talks to dead people related to her? That's the situation that's comparable to me. "I'm getting a message from a clocker?" LMAO
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:27 PM
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Why is nobody even entertaining the possibility that Jeanine Edwards was just the messenger of this supposed information in this specific situation?

Do you have any other examples of her being even mildly irresponsible? I don't.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:14 AM
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Do you have any other examples of her being even mildly irresponsible? I don't.
You mean irresponsible other than the way she dresses?
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:44 AM
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You mean irresponsible other than the way she dresses?

Right.....what she really needs is a ridiculous pair of blue sunglasses.
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:03 AM
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Right.....what she really needs is a ridiculous pair of blue sunglasses.
Cheap shot.
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:47 AM
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You mean irresponsible other than the way she dresses?
Don't.

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Old 10-09-2007, 03:22 AM
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Hmmm...and what reasons would these people have for floating a rumor about the horse's condition after breaking down on polytrack? The whole thing is just ridiculous. Were these officials concerned enough to have the horse checked thoroughly by the vet?

ESPN should not have reported that after the fact unless the "unnamed Keeneland officials" allowed themselves to be named or it was reported before the race.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:42 AM
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Hmmm...and what reasons would these people have for floating a rumor about the horse's condition after breaking down on polytrack? The whole thing is just ridiculous. Were these officials concerned enough to have the horse checked thoroughly by the vet?

ESPN should not have reported that after the fact unless the "unnamed Keeneland officials" allowed themselves to be named or it was reported before the race.
to deflect attention away from the surface? he wasn't the only one to take a bad step the other day.
altho we see quotes from unnamed or anonymous sources all the time, i don't like the way this went down.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:13 PM
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Why is nobody even entertaining the possibility that Jeanine Edwards was just the messenger of this supposed information in this specific situation?

Do you have any other examples of her being even mildly irresponsible? I don't.
She was obviously just the messenger...I never thought that she just made it up...but the message delivered was irresponsible and therefore she takes the heat...


BTW- being that I know virtually all the officials at Keeneland, I highly doubt any of them have been clocking this or any other horse nor do they have the ability to pick this horse out of a lineup of 4 horses even if you thew a chestnut and gray in. Therefore that leads me to believe that any info given about this horse by a 'Keeneland official' was second hand info which makes what was reported on tv, third hand info...
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:24 PM
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Had he broke down over a natural dirt surface you wouldn't have heard any such nonsense on TV.

Kee has some impressive poly PR. When Calculating Man established the track record and fatally broke down after the wire their last year, it wasn't even reported anywhere I saw.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:33 PM
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Bad day for Keeneland anyway you look at it. Would you put a horse on the track you where partners on, if you thought the horse was hurt. I doubt it.
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