Bailey vs. Azeri

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You gleaned this information from her series of allowance victories that were masquerading as graded stakes?

The BC at Arlington.
Tell me she would not have crushed the boys.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

The great Volponi would have easily beat her that day.

And then they let her ferment.
Sad.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The BC at Arlington.
Tell me she would not have crushed the boys.

She would not have been in the top 3

and that was far from a stellar field.

She was a nice filly who was mistaken for a star because she hid out west for most of her career and even when she came East, was exposed against a really so-so group of fillies. I'm sure even horses like Goodbye Halo would have beat her up. But you are free to think that she was a freak if you would like.

[miraja2]

Off the top of my head I would have to rank her as the top filly/mare in that division of THIS decade, but as others have pointed out, this has been a weak decade for that division.
If you went back to the 90s and matched her against a horse like Inside Information, I think Azeri would most likely be outclassed.
And the 80s were simply an exceptional decade for fillies and mares on the dirt. Of all of them I would personally go with Personal Ensign, but a strong case could be made for a number of them from that decade.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

She would not have been in the top 3

and that was far from a stellar field.

She was a nice filly who was mistaken for a star because she hid out west for most of her career and even when she came East, was exposed against a really so-so group of fillies. I'm sure even horses like Goodbye Halo would have beat her up. But you are free to think that she was a freak if you would like.

If I could have convinced the Paulson's
to give her to you then you would have seen.
Huge cruiser with a drive at the end.

She died on the vine. Unfullfilled.
Happens all the time. Tried to get a stupid
streak and ruined a horse. I hated to see her
run after she fermented. It was awful to witness
the degradation.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

If I could have convinced the Paulson's
to give her to you then you would have seen.
Huge cruiser with a drive at the end.

She died on the vine. Unfullfilled.
Happens all the time. Tried to get a stupid
streak and ruined a horse. I hated to see her
run after she fermented. It was awful to witness
the degradation.

Hard to say the streak ruined her as she was usually just toying with the same bunch of 30 claimers

Of course running in tougher races would have ruined her because she would not have had the notoriety of having a winning streak and we all would have forgotten about her by now.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I lean towards what the others are saying in this arguement, but she did win the Apple Blossom and Go For Wand in that year that it was so hard for you to watch her run. Not a bad year. And was what 5th in the Classic behind Ghostzapper?

5th is not what legends are made of...

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Which is why I said I leaned towards what you were arguing. My point was in that year that Pgardn had such a hard time watching her, it was a pretty productive year.

That is because she was nothing compared to what she was.
Not the same horse. Not even close. I really wonder if she even
wanted to run.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

That is because she was nothing compared to what she was.
Not the same horse. Not even close. I really wonder if she even
wanted to run.

Her sheet numbers were better the year she was supposedly so down.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Her sheet numbers were better the year she was supposedly so down.

Someone soiled the sheets.
And dirty sheets are made by runnng against 30K claimers as you stated.
I just watchem run.
So do you guys.

I also think Dan Marino is the best QB I have ever seen.
So maybe my eyes are just bad.

Mineshaft's style was impeccable by my eye also.
But of course he never ran against anything (according to many).