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Old 09-05-2007, 08:54 PM
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If horse can't have sneaks, then let there be all weather ...on that profound note I will get out of this thread while the getting is good
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:09 PM
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i've been calling him mymommiesknees
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:24 PM
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I am honoring my beloved Rabbi Mamonides......by using his picture as my avatar.


Anyone who thinks they are clever and makes their avatar a jar of mayo or a picture of their mom's knees will feel my wrath.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:34 PM
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:12 AM
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Shut up.
how'd tasha's miracle do in the debutante?
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:39 AM
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Yes, shins with 2YOs are common, but anyone who says that there were not issues with the Saratoga tracks this past summer is kidding themselves, or trying to advance another agenda. If there was one thing that most of the trainers agreed upon, it was their displeasure with the hardness and fastness (how many track records were set) of the tracks caused by the track super's nightly decision to seal and roll the tracks, even when there was no rain in the forecast. The issue became such a problem that special meetings were called between the horsemen and NYRA management to address the trainers' concerns.

Speaking from personal experience, we had two horses on the grounds and both developed filling in their ankles, and this was only from training. Last Sunday, our vet was at the barn to x-ray one horse to make sure that there were no significant issues. The x-rays revealed nothing that required surgery, and we think he probably suffered a foot bruise (another common aliment up here this summer). The most telling statement from the vet was he had x-rayed more ankles this past summer, only to have them come back negative. He attributed this to the hardness of the tracks.
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:24 AM
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Of course there were issues, but to blame the track for Maimonides shins seems a bit unfounded at least at this time. Most of the posts in this thread by me were in response to Sumitas' poly agenda.
I agree. I attended the meeting where the horsemen discussed the track, condition, etc., with NYRA management. It was a very good meeting although I think there were some issues. One issue, which could have been addressed before the fact, was that I am not sure how many people (trainers) felt there were "major" issues with the track. Of course "major" is a relative term.

Also, because there were a very few very vocal that appeared to be the driving force, I am not sure this was the most efficient and effective approach. Regardless, NYRA was very receptive and immediately followed up and took action. I think the major issue was the track being sealed, more as an isolated issue, but of course everyone is going to have their own issues. The track super felt completely blindsided and was caught completely off-guard, and while that might not be important, I think it might be more indicitive of the tone or environment.

I think the approach is key here -- solving problems, by working together; or working against, force, or at least the appearence or tone of working against.

Eric
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:10 AM
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So it clearly wasn't an issue of dirt vs poly. Nobody was jumping up and down saying "We want poly!"

Maimonides was in Saratoga because it wasn't poly.
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