Praise For Del Mar

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What am I arguing? I just think your angles are basic handicapping. The public, as a whole doesn't know what they are doing, which is why skilled handicappers are able to make money.

I am in the middle with Poly right now. I don't think poly is as good or as bad as it is talked about here. But I do think it was rushed into places that really didn't need it, like California. But the surface, from what I have seen, and while not betting a ton, I watch almost every race, is not easy to gauge. A simple changing up capping isn't enough on a surface that is unpredictable.

California was in DESPERATE need for it. Santa Anita track was horrible about breakdowns as was Del Mar.

I actually don't think this is as much about the actual surface but the actual bottom of the track. When installing poly track, you essentially start from ground zero, thus installing an even track. The old 'bottom' of Arlington was horrible, which led to all those breakdowns last year, with the new bottom, we have had substantially less. The recent breakdowns were because the horses were sore and had major problems, but we haven't had any healthy horses break down because of the surface, not a one

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Disagree about Cali. They had breakdowns, but the reasons are not so clear.

Weren't a lot of the breakdowns on each surface last year because of sore horses? I seem to remember a fantastic article written by Christine janks about it. Seems like a sore horse will breakdown on any surface, so instead of spending millions and millions of dollars, how about making a concerned effort to get horses that have problems off of the track.

There were like 40 breakdowns, and about 20 of them were in the same exact on the track. Far turn near the rail

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What track are you talking about?

Arlington

[Scav]

"The old handicappers, the ones that have been around 30 years, are all mixed up," he said. "It's very slow. It's a brand-new project. Our old tracks, the sandy loam, were fine. We started getting problems when they started adding wood products to them, and it would ball up in their feet."

Per Bruce Headley speaking about old school handicappers having problems.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/87604.html

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

He also said the way the old tracks were was fine. I'd also love to see these new school handicappers that are doing so good handicapping the stuff because I have not seen it.

If there is money to be made, they will come. You can be sure of that. It may be like a new market has opened up.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Disagree about Cali. They had breakdowns, but the reasons are not so clear.

Weren't a lot of the breakdowns on each surface last year because of sore horses? I seem to remember a fantastic article written by Christine janks about it. Seems like a sore horse will breakdown on any surface, so instead of spending millions and millions of dollars, how about making a concerned effort to get horses that have problems off of the track.

I have been at the Del -Mar meet this whole season , there has not been one horse put down on the Poly , yes there have been injuries but if some of these would have happened on the old surface those horses would be dead and that is a fact.
I still hold by my theory on betting Poly at Del Mar , look at the P.P's , horses who have ran consistant 12 's with no fast beggining 1/4 and no fast finishing 1/4 are doing well , I cashed on Threadneedle with this angle and even tho I only bet 2 across I made 38.60, I picked Karlees Kitten the other day because of said above reason and she won also. I bet on our mare Ex Caeles even tho she was a route mare shortening back up because if you looked at her lines on dirt she ran 12's. Im not a handicapper or gambler or I would bet more than 2 across , but it sure seems this could be an angle to look at .

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Honu

I have been at the Del -Mar meet this whole season , there has not been one horse put down on the Poly , yes there have been injuries but if some of these would have happened on the old surface those horses would be dead and that is a fact.
I still hold by my theory on betting Poly at Del Mar , look at the P.P's , horses who have ran consistant 12 's with no fast beggining 1/4 and no fast finishing 1/4 are doing well , I cashed on Threadneedle with this angle and even tho I only bet 2 across I made 38.60, I picked Karlees Kitten the other day because of said above reason and she won also. I bet on our mare Ex Caeles even tho she was a route mare shortening back up because if you looked at her lines on dirt she ran 12's. Im not a handicapper or gambler or I would bet more than 2 across , but it sure seems this could be an angle to look at .

Trust me...this woman knows her sh*t

[sumitas]

Instead of just burying her head in the polytrack she is actually learning. Tx...

[GPK]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Instead of just burying her head in the polytrack she is actually learning. Tx...

Working horses over the surface everyday may make it a touch easier for her, don't you think?

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by GPK

Working horses over the surface everyday may make it a touch easier for her, don't you think?

speaking of DelMar....really hard to believe I don't hear you yapping about Surf Cat.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by dr. fager

speaking of DelMar....really hard to believe I don't hear you yapping about Surf Cat.

Dude...I didn't even know you were still alive.

Im taking a break for a few months. Thinking of waiting til BC Day and then the Tampa meet.