Pletcher to have no horses in the Travers - Page 2

boswd · #1 08-10-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I really don't want to rehash either, but I don't believe it was putting more importance on one race or the other. Nafzger had always said the Derby was the goal. After that there was no script.

So I ask, is the Brooklyn, or whatever race Pletcher is aiming AGS for more important than the Travers?

Doesnt' matter after the TC races prestige is being thrown out the window. Now all the trainers want is the easiest route to BC. I love and HATE the Breeders Cup.

SniperSB23 · #2 08-10-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So I ask, is the Brooklyn, or whatever race Pletcher is aiming AGS for more important than the Travers?

Nope, he's blatantly said that he simply feels the Brooklyn fits better with the BC goal. He said the same thing with Rags, that she would be ready to go in the Alabama but he would rather just have one prep going into the BC. His emphasis (along with others) on bringing "fresh" horses into the BC is really ruining the fall racing calendar. I hope it backfires and he gets shut out at the BC again. This sport desperately needs a points system to stop this "BC or bust" mentality.

Danzig · #3 08-10-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Nope, he's blatantly said that he simply feels the Brooklyn fits better with the BC goal. He said the same thing with Rags, that she would be ready to go in the Alabama but he would rather just have one prep going into the BC. His emphasis (along with others) on bringing "fresh" horses into the BC is really ruining the fall racing calendar. I hope it backfires and he gets shut out at the BC again. This sport desperately needs a points system to stop this "BC or bust" mentality.

going with a winning formula, no doubt trying to duplicate his success in the bc races last year.

outofthebox · #4 08-11-2007, 10:30 AM

Scrap the Jim Dandy. Have Monmouth move up the Haskell a week or even two weekends. Then there should be no excuse about not showing up for the "midsummer" Derby...

ArlJim78 · #5 08-10-2007, 10:34 AM

its not about which race is more important than another, or being somehow afraid of Street Sense. I'm pretty sure he is simply looking for the best timing to lead up to the BC. AGS ran with Street Sense way back at Tampa, and has improved a bunch since that time. my guess is that right at this moment Pletcher feels confident he has the better horse.

ArlJim78 · #6 08-10-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So wouldn't the time to strike be now then?

no, not if you think the timing of the race if wrong, and/or if AGS has not bounced back fully from the last race. perhaps he feels that another big effort right now will leave AGS out of position to recover and peak on the day he wants, BC day. getting a win in the travers would be great but if it comes at the expense of having his horse ready for the classic maybe thats not a risk he wants to take.

i don't know, I'm just trying to put myself in his shoes and try to imagine why he is skipping the travers. if the travers was the endgame he would run.

SniperSB23 · #7 08-10-2007, 10:48 AM

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no, not if you think the timing of the race if wrong, and/or if AGS has not bounced back fully from the last race. perhaps he feels that another big effort right now will leave AGS out of position to recover and peak on the day he wants, BC day. getting a win in the travers would be great but if it comes at the expense of having his horse ready for the classic maybe thats not a risk he wants to take.

i don't know, I'm just trying to put myself in his shoes and try to imagine why he is skipping the travers. if the travers was the endgame he would run.

The problem is too many people are taking the attitude that running 2nd in the Travers is worse than skipping the Travers altogether. Everyone is way too afraid to lose with their stallion prospects.

Sightseek · #8 08-13-2007, 06:47 PM

Just a month or so ago, it looked like the Travers could be loaded...now it's the Jim Dandy all over again.

I like Street Sense, but there are just too many options for horses to be able to duck one another now.

ArlJim78 · #9 08-10-2007, 10:38 AM

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And now it's 8 days before the JCGC, does that make any sense? I can't wait to see AGS run against 3 horses in that race.

unfortunately there are very few really interesting races at the top level anymore.

Sightseek · #10 08-10-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

This thread should be retitled, "Young Guys Yearning for the Days of Not So Long Ago," no?

and Girls.