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Old 07-30-2007, 10:57 AM
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Some new crazy way of figuring out payoffs....

This link is what I have used in the past to explain it

http://www.balmoralpark.com/NetPool.cfm?Cat=R
This is a pretty remarkable shift in show payoffs from the old model. DRF says there was a 143K minus pool. Yet CP West and Sightseeing still paid $3.40 and $3.00.

Rob, did you get the final show pool amount on Street Sense? The 546,000/600,000 = 91% is not as high a percentage as I've seen in some minus pools.

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Old 07-30-2007, 11:44 AM
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This is a pretty remarkable shift in show payoffs from the old model. DRF says there was a 143K minus pool. Yet CP West and Sightseeing still paid $3.40 and $3.00.



--Dunbar
That is strange....How could a the place horse pay $3.40 to show and the show horse 3.00 to show with a 143 K minus pool? It has always been automatic for all three horses in the money to pay 2.10 in this situation. Is NYRA trying to lose money?
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:50 PM
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Rob, did you get the final show pool amount on Street Sense? The 546,000/600,000 = 91% is not as high a percentage as I've seen in some minus pools.

--Dunbar
I didnt get the final show pool amount, and I think the ones I did get from the NYRA website could be wrong. Maybe the same person who timed the Lawyer Ron race posted the pool amounts on the NYRA website toteboard. I looked today and thing just dont add up

example:

place pool R3

1,378
1,230
8,280
1,303
______
14,356 total

obviously wrong there ..... 3rd race today 17 min to post.. doesnt add up correctly
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:54 PM
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I didnt get the final show pool amount, and I think the ones I did get from the NYRA website could be wrong. Maybe the same person who timed the Lawyer Ron race posted the pool amounts on the NYRA website toteboard. I looked today and thing just dont add up

example:

place pool R3

1,378
1,230
8,280
1,303
______
14,356 total

obviously wrong there ..... 3rd race today 17 min to post.. doesnt add up correctly
That's the gross pool listed as the total. The amount bet on each horse added together equals the net pool.

NT
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:59 PM
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That's the gross pool listed as the total. The amount bet on each horse added together equals the net pool.

NT
What's the difference between net and gross pools?
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:00 PM
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What's the difference between net and gross pools?
after takeout?? maybe


by the way STS: thanks for the winner at CRC the other day ( rosemary in the "get paid at 1/2 race" )
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:05 PM
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after takeout?? maybe


by the way STS: thanks for the winner at CRC the other day ( rosemary in the "get paid at 1/2 race" )
5-1 + wasn't too bad. glad you got some.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:19 PM
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yeah, the funny thing .. actually not funny.. but i got nosed for the exacta 2/3... couldnt even see the backstretch due to rain. would have really hit it nice if the 3 got 2nd

thx again
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