The Whitney

[fpsoxfan]

It is certainly a nice field. I just hope the weather is O.K. The weather is supposed to be very tropical with the chance of heavy downpours. I hope (even though there isn't many Saturday) everything stays on the turf.

If i'm not mistaken, I believe Steve said on ATR today that the morning line on Brass Hat is 20-1. LOL!! I hope he stays at or above those odds on Saturday. What a ridiculous morning line for a horse with his credentials.

[ninetoone]

back up the trucks...

[robfla]

Prg. # PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Claim $ Equip. Med. ML
1 1 Flashy Bull Garcia Alan McLaughlin Kiaran P 118 L 4-1
2 2 Papi Chullo Coa E M Contessa Gary C 115 L 9-2
3 3 Brass Hat Martinez W Bradley William 118 L 20-1
4 4 Fairbanks Migliore R Pletcher Todd A 116 L 20-1
5 5 Wanderin Boy Bejarano R Zito Nicholas P 117 L 20-1
6 6 Sun King Nakatani C S Zito Nicholas P 117 L 12-1
7 7 Magna Graduate Gomez G K Pletcher Todd A 118 L 7-2
8 8 Student Council Albarado R J Howard Neil J 115 L 30-1
9 9 Diamond Stripes Prado E S Dutrow, Jr. R E 116 L 5-1
10 10 Dry Martini Velasquez C Tagg Barclay 117 L 15-1
11 11 Lawyer Ron Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 118 L 6-1
12 12 Awesome Twist Castellano J J Kimmel John C 114 L 15-1

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

If i'm not mistaken, I believe Steve said on ATR today that the morning line on Brass Hat is 20-1. LOL!! I hope he stays at or above those odds on Saturday. What a ridiculous morning line for a horse with his credentials.

That is a truly absurd line. He will be 3rd choice, at worst.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by philcski

That is a truly absurd line. He will be 3rd choice, at worst.

look again

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by philcski

That is a truly absurd line. He will be 3rd choice, at worst.

He's run one race in 13 months and as said a 98 Beyer all out to beat the great Student Council, also in this race. I think he has a shot...and could move forward, but most in the race have done more than him this year so far. I think those odds are about right I think.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

He's run one race in 13 months and as said a 98 Beyer all out to beat the great Student Council, also in this race. I think he has a shot...and could move forward, but most in the race have done more than him this year so far. I think those odds are about right I think.

I agree. If we are going to judge them by the distant past, let's bring Alysheba back and make him 8/5. Based on what's known at this point, I'd say he should be over 15/1.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

If i'm not mistaken, I believe Steve said on ATR today that the morning line on Brass Hat is 20-1. LOL!! I hope he stays at or above those odds on Saturday. What a ridiculous morning line for a horse with his credentials.

From what I've seen, you're lucky to get 20-1 in the BC Classic futures pools on Brass Hat. I got find a bookie if that line stays the same...

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I am sort of with HOC and King Glorious here. I realize he set a track record, but he did it beating Student Council. The track was lightening fast. I realize he did it off the long layoff, injury, etc. I suppose the ML is a bit high, but I would be very careful betting a horse like that coming back in 20 days.

I understand it's a nice story and all, but the horse should be double digit odds in here. And 20-1 in the Breeders Cup? He should be 50-1, maybe higher as of right now. First the chances he or anyone gets there is slim nowadays. He's obviously not the soundest of animals judging by the gaps in his form. To take anything near 20-1 on him in the BC is foolish in my opinion.

DH,
I hope you're sitting down.
Wonder of wonders...
I totally agree!!!!!!!!!

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

DH,
I hope you're sitting down.
Wonder of wonders...
I totally agree!!!!!!!!!

I doubt he'll care. Sitting down is still advised for this post, so he can catch some zzzzzzzzzzzzs more easily.

[King Glorious]

I'm going to play an exacta box of Magna Graduate, Fairbanks, and Diamond Stipes.

I'm going to play a five horse box of Brass Hat, Fairbanks, Diamond Stripes, Magna Graduate and Lawyer Ron for the tri.

I'll bet Brass Hat and Fairbanks to win.

I'll play a super of:
Magna Grad, Fairbanks
Magna Grad, Fairbanks
Diamond Stripes, Brass Hat, Lawyer Ron
Brass Hat, Papi Chulo, Diamond Stripes, Wanderin Boy, Lawyer Ron

My prediction on the order of finish is:
Magna Graduate
Fairbanks
Diamond Stripes
Lawyer Ron
Brass Hat
Wanderin Boy
Papi Chullo
Sun King
Awesome Twist
Flashy Bull
Student Council
Dry Martini

[letswastemoney]

No one gives Flashy Bull any respect! He runs a 105 range beyer everytime!

[Pedigree Ann]

Brass Hat has had his prep after recovering from a fractured sesamoid last year. Obviously, after such a long layoff, he was not fully cranked up for the race at Churchill; it was designed to improve his fitness and the fact that he won was an unexpected bonus. (He suffered a codylar fracture in Texas as a 3yo, was off for a year, had a turf prep in which he ran nowhere, then won 3 in a row.)

Let me remind you of this: Brass Hat is intrinsically a better horse than the other horses in this race. He's beaten Magna Graduate by open lengths whenever they have met. He made highly touted East Coasters like Suave and Pollard's Vision look like allowance horses. Ignore him at your peril.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Brass Hat has had his prep after recovering from a fractured sesamoid last year. Obviously, after such a long layoff, he was not fully cranked up for the race at Churchill; it was designed to improve his fitness and the fact that he won was an unexpected bonus. (He suffered a codylar fracture in Texas as a 3yo, was off for a year, had a turf prep in which he ran nowhere, then won 3 in a row.)

Let me remind you of this: Brass Hat is intrinsically a better horse than the other horses in this race. He's beaten Magna Graduate by open lengths whenever they have met. He made highly touted East Coasters like Suave and Pollard's Vision look like allowance horses. Ignore him at your peril.

I completely disagree with you on that.....and so do the speed figures.
Five horses in here have run a BSF of 110 or higher. Brass Hat is not one of them.

[FGFan]

Don't think anyone picked him here, haven't read all the posts.
But Student Council is scratched.