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Old 06-28-2007, 01:01 PM
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sabotage no doubt. aren't they all? it's the drug fairy, waving his wand from barn to barn while the lights are out.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:09 PM
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what a shocker.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:13 PM
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Does it really matter? Horse racing has become a complete joke. These guys get suspended and let someone else run their horse. In fact some trainers (one who has a brother, ahem) joke about how they are going to go off and vacation in the bahamas and let their brother saddle their horse. There is absolutely zero accountability in the sport. The sport is dying in part because it is fulled with cheaters and everyone knows it. People have no idea how important the vet has become to the success of a barn.

I don't like to say it because I am a regular listener, but even the veterinarians and the barns that are cheaters get regular spots on radio shows just like the one that is connected to this site. Sad but true.

Cheating is rampant in all professional sports. It is all about money and nobody cares about rules. Laws and rules mean nothing in america. Everything is about money.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:18 PM
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He will be denied access to all New York tracks from June 25 to July 2, 2007.

( while his assistants talk to him on his cell phone, following all instructions he gives and his clients pay him his day rate, and he gets forwarded the purse monies )

you are right bene... its a joke
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Old 06-28-2007, 02:57 PM
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what a shocker.
I second that. He turned freaking Papi Chullo into Spectacular Bid. I'm surprised this is his first positive.
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Old 06-28-2007, 04:18 PM
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I second that. He turned freaking Papi Chullo into Spectacular Bid. I'm surprised this is his first positive.
It's not
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Old 06-28-2007, 04:20 PM
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Not to defend him, but because bute can be used pretty close to a race, it is not that hard to come up with an overage.
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Old 06-28-2007, 04:43 PM
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To Contessa's credit, and I'm certainly no fan of the enormous sudden improvements his horses show all too often, at least he said the right things when suspended and didn't mock the system the way Dutrow did earlier in the year.
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Old 06-28-2007, 04:45 PM
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To Contessa's credit, and I'm certainly no fan of the enormous sudden improvements his horses show all too often, at least he said the right things when suspended and didn't mock the system the way Dutrow did earlier in the year.
That's why he got time off for good behavior.
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Old 06-28-2007, 05:13 PM
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Not to defend him, but because bute can be used pretty close to a race, it is not that hard to come up with an overage.
I agree. Bute has it's place.
I don't think this makes a "cheater".
Next, maybe more careful.
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Old 06-28-2007, 06:41 PM
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Anyone ready to throw this guy over the falls by labeling him a "cheater" doesn't have the slightest clue what is involved in the day to day running of a racing stable. 80 horses, gone through mane to tail daily with a team of assistants, vets, etc. Human error is bound to rear it's head, that is a fact of life. He has over 620 starts this year and one lousy overage classifies him as a "cheater"??!! I can't recall the last time this happened, it certainly hasn't been within the last year - he started over 1500 last year and I'm sure when he won the trainer title last year more than quite a few (READ: ALL) were tested in the detention barn.
Bute overages are one of the most falacious, subjective measurements that these guys deal with, beacuse as Chuck said, it can be used so close to a race, and all horses react to and dissipate medication differently...Two horses treated on the same day within the time limits; one could still come up positive, and that;s on the trainer.

Was he negligent? He probably wasn't even there, but sure - it's his operation so by proxy he was negligent.

Responsible? Absolutely. He freely admited fault and assumed responsibility.

I guess being a man about it rather than crying about getting caught and appealing is now akin to "getting off early for good behavior"....sheesh

It's a real shame that folks feel the need to pile on one of the classier guys in the game, but hey, people need to do what they feel they need to do, even if that's libeling a man's character without any facts...I guess.
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