Pity for the Impotent Dick

[skippy3481]

Dts, An honest question,
Are you really that bored, that you must sit around and come up with ways to post common dreams or huggington post articles? It would be great if you actually came up with your own ideas instead of posting something that someone else wrote. If i wanted to read those articles, I would go to that site.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by skippy3481

Dts, An honest question,
Are you really that bored, that you must sit around and come up with ways to post common dreams or huggington post articles? It would be great if you actually came up with your own ideas instead of posting something that someone else wrote. If i wanted to read those articles, I would go to that site.

Skippy,
Believe it or not, some of the things that are being said about my beloved Dick are just so...

so...

Well, I can't put "it" into words.

The claims that he's not part of the "executive branch"!!! Indeed!
Dick knows his branch!

Look at what these folks are saying about Dick:
http://www.lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=900

When Dick finally comes up, I hope he sticks it right in their b-u-t-t-s!!

GO DICK!!!! GO!!!

And from one of my favorite books...

Dick goes up.
Up Dick.
Up.
Jane comes down.
Down Jane.
Down.
See Spot run.
Run Spot run!

Looks like DTS can't keep Dick out of his mouth.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by skippy3481

Dts, An honest question,
Are you really that bored, that you must sit around and come up with ways to post common dreams or huggington post articles? It would be great if you actually came up with your own ideas instead of posting something that someone else wrote. If i wanted to read those articles, I would go to that site.

Skippy, all penis jokes aside, DTS is posting this (I assume) because recently many things Cheney has said have come to light that make it pretty clear he considers himself above the law. From the Washington Post:

"For months, Olson and his Justice Department colleagues had pleaded for modest shifts that would shore up the government’s position. Hamdi, the American, had languished in a Navy brig without a hearing or a lawyer for two and a half years. Shafiq Rasul, a British citizen at Guantanamo Bay, had been held even longer. Olson could make Cheney’s argument that courts had no jurisdiction, but he wanted to “show them that you at least have some system of due process in place” to ensure against wrongful detention, according to a senior Justice Department official who closely followed the debates.

The vice president’s counsel fought and won again. He argued that any declaration of binding rules would restrict the freedom of future presidents and open the door to further lawsuits. On June 28, 2004, the Supreme Court ruled 8 to 1 in the Hamdi case that detainees must have a lawyer and an opportunity to challenge their status as enemy combatants before a “neutral decision maker.” The Rasul decision, the same day, held 6 to 3 that Guantanamo Bay is not beyond the reach of federal law."

In short, these kind of actions mean Cheney believes the Executive Branch has the right to imprison you, without charges, with no access to a lawyer or contact with your family, torture you, and never face any sort of legal ramifications. You could die in prison, never having been charged with anything, or with ever being permitted to know why you were imprisoned. This is a very big deal. This is supposed to happen in banana republics, not in the USA. And just because you don't want to read the articles doesn't mean it's not happening. And it's happening because somewhere along the way, we got cowed enough to allow it.

[GenuineRisk]

I'm sorry; I should have posted the link to the complete WaPo article:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/chene...esi/index.html

[Downthestretch55]

First to Pillow Putz,
No Dick in my mouth.

Next to Genuine Risk,
BINGO!
You might find this to be of interest. The calls for impeachment will increase, and if you read this, you might be amazed to see which ones are going to toss Dick like a urine stained jock strap.
http://newsforreal.com/

I've always loved pressure on Dick.
Prediction: Serious "health issue" within two months.
Dick will not rise again.

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

First to Pillow Putz,
No Dick in my mouth.

Next to Genuine Risk,
BINGO!
You might find this to be of interest. The calls for impeachment will increase, and if you read this, you might be amazed to see which ones are going to toss Dick like a urine stained jock strap.
http://newsforreal.com/

I've always loved pressure on Dick.
Prediction: Serious "health issue" within two months.
Dick will not rise again.

The democrats are stupid enough to try and impeach him. Right around election time, too. Might as well give the white house to the elephants for another 4 years so you can cut and paste links from your half-a-fag bookmarked sites.

Ben Affleck is about the most rational out of the bunch. He said dems are afraid to be called pussies. And he's right. They were elected to congress to change things. Here we are 6 months later and they haven't done jack sh.it. It's too late to start the impeachment process now.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

The democrats are stupid enough to try and impeach him. Right around election time, too. Might as well give the white house to the elephants for another 4 years so you can cut and paste links from your half-a-fag bookmarked sites.

Ben Affleck is about the most rational out of the bunch. He said dems are afraid to be called pussies. And he's right. They were elected to congress to change things. Here we are 6 months later and they haven't done jack sh.it. It's too late to start the impeachment process now.

Pillow,
If you read the last link I put up, you might be surprised.
It won't be the Dems (just my prediction).
As it states in that link, if it seems likely that the Dems will win the 2008 elections, take a guess at the party that won't want a VP to have the same powers as Cheney has established.
Lots more rats are going to be jumping off this sinking ship.
Watch them swim away.

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Pillow,
If you read the last link I put up, you might be surprised.
It won't be the Dems (just my prediction).
As it states in that link, if it seems likely that the Dems will win the 2008 elections, take a guess at the party that won't want a VP to have the same powers as Cheney has established.
Lots more rats are going to be jumping off this sinking ship.
Watch them swim away.

How will the dems have any shot with the top 3 they currently have? Do you honestly think that someone as polarizing as Hillary has a shot? Obama? Sadly the south isn't ready for that, and the muslim deal will get beat into the ground. Edwards? Maybe, but Hillary and Obama aren't helping his chances of getting the nomination.

Watch and see what happens. We'll have another actor turned politician in the White House.

You might have faith in our fellow americans, I don't.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

The democrats are stupid enough to try and impeach him. Right around election time, too. Might as well give the white house to the elephants for another 4 years so you can cut and paste links from your half-a-fag bookmarked sites.

Ben Affleck is about the most rational out of the bunch. He said dems are afraid to be called pussies. And he's right. They were elected to congress to change things. Here we are 6 months later and they haven't done jack sh.it. It's too late to start the impeachment process now.

Yeah! How dare the Dems not fix six years' worth of Bush's incompetence and Cheney's tyranny in six months! How dare they! Why, they should be able to push anything they want through with their what, one vote majority (and it's Lieberman. Give me a break)?

There's plenty to be mad at the Dems for not accomplishing, but getting angry because they don't have a 60-vote majority and thus can't get anything past Bush's buddies in Congress is a little ridiculous, don't you think?

Six years of gutting worker safety, environmental regulations, selling public lands off to private corporations and endorsing torture, illegal detentions, the suspension of habeus corpus, Katrina, attorney firings etc- all under a Republican Congress- apparently you were fine with that. But the fact that the Dems haven't fixed all that in six months, and you're accusing them of not having done anything? What? Especially seeing as how they are barely the majority.

Though I suppose it means you're holding Dems to a higher ethical standard than you do Repubs. We're flattered.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Six years of gutting worker safety, environmental regulations, selling public lands off to private corporations and endorsing torture, illegal detentions, the suspension of habeus corpus, Katrina, attorney firings etc- all under a Republican Congress- apparently you were fine with that. But the fact that the Dems haven't fixed all that in six months, and you're accusing them of not having done anything? What? Especially seeing as how they are barely the majority.

Though I suppose it means you're holding Dems to a higher ethical standard than you do Repubs. We're flattered.

Did they vote on this or did Dick Cheney illegally order it?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

First to Pillow Putz,
No Dick in my mouth.

Next to Genuine Risk,
BINGO!
You might find this to be of interest. The calls for impeachment will increase, and if you read this, you might be amazed to see which ones are going to toss Dick like a urine stained jock strap.
http://newsforreal.com/

I've always loved pressure on Dick.
Prediction: Serious "health issue" within two months.
Dick will not rise again.

DTS, they're not going to impeach Cheney. Because America doesn't care. As long as we convince ourselves that it's some terrorist-lovin' towelhead being imprisoned without charges, we don't care. As a poster on another forum so elegantly put it, no one wakes up saying, "You know what thisi country needs? A little more fascism." No, instead we just hit the snooze button over and over until we wake up and go, "What the hell happened?" as we and ours are being taken away without cause.

We'll see what happens in 2008. I can't believe the Bush and Cheney cabal would seize all the power they have only to risk handing it over in another two years. Oh well; time to hit snooze again.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

DTS, they're not going to impeach Cheney. Because America doesn't care. As long as we convince ourselves that it's some terrorist-lovin' towelhead being imprisoned without charges, we don't care. As a poster on another forum so elegantly put it, no one wakes up saying, "You know what thisi country needs? A little more fascism." No, instead we just hit the snooze button over and over until we wake up and go, "What the hell happened?" as we and ours are being taken away without cause.

We'll see what happens in 2008. I can't believe the Bush and Cheney cabal would seize all the power they have only to risk handing it over in another two years. Oh well; time to hit snooze again.

Works for me!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

DTS, they're not going to impeach Cheney. Because America doesn't care. As long as we convince ourselves that it's some terrorist-lovin' towelhead being imprisoned without charges, we don't care. As a poster on another forum so elegantly put it, no one wakes up saying, "You know what thisi country needs? A little more fascism." No, instead we just hit the snooze button over and over until we wake up and go, "What the hell happened?" as we and ours are being taken away without cause.We'll see what happens in 2008. I can't believe the Bush and Cheney cabal would seize all the power they have only to risk handing it over in another two years. Oh well; time to hit snooze again.

People are being seized out of suburbia on a daily basis!!

[Cannon Shell]

Impeaching is so passe

[timmgirvan]

The Democrats can't get out of the way of themselves,much less do something positive in Congress!

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

People are being seized out of suburbia on a daily basis!!

They're certainly being seized out of suburban Baghdad daily.

[skippy3481]

GR,
I understand what your saying and you post is precisely what I mean. I want to read posts that are least rationale, but it irrates me to no end to see someone just post a link just regurgitate what the article said. I can read, what im interested in is the posters original thoughts are on the subject. If i just wanted to read the news I would. I don't agree with a good a deal of what you and dts say, but that doesn't mean I enjoy reading your viewpoints. People who have differing viewpoints help to refine how i view a problem or situation. My point is this, come up with something original to a situation. Great discussion happens when people of opposing viewpoints can share viewpoints in a civil and meaningful way. Making light of a topic or the overt usage satire are not always the best weapons. In the future, I'll just ignore his posts, I was merely trying to generate an actual discussion on what I deem to be an interesting topic.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by skippy3481

GR,
I understand what your saying and you post is precisely what I mean. I want to read posts that are least rationale, but it irrates me to no end to see someone just post a link just regurgitate what the article said. I can read, what im interested in is the posters original thoughts are on the subject. If i just wanted to read the news I would. I don't agree with a good a deal of what you and dts say, but that doesn't mean I enjoy reading your viewpoints. People who have differing viewpoints help to refine how i view a problem or situation. My point is this, come up with something original to a situation. Great discussion happens when people of opposing viewpoints can share viewpoints in a civil and meaningful way. Making light of a topic or the overt usage satire are not always the best weapons. In the future, I'll just ignore his posts, I was merely trying to generate an actual discussion on what I deem to be an interesting topic.

I think though, the posting of links is to attempt to give some credence to what one is saying- it's all well and good for me to say "Cheney supports torture" but if I can't back it up with facts, it's just me yammering, much like right-wingers who scream about Hillary being a lesbian (how someone's sexual preferences, true or not, became a criticism of character, I don't know, but they sure like to throw that rumor around a lot without any backup). Admittedly, I don't see the point in posting someone else's commentary, unless it says something funnier or more eloquently than I can (and lots of people say lots of things funnier or more eloquently than I can; it's why those people get paid to do it).

I like to read most of the links posted, though, and I think it's worth taking a look at opposing views, because many times, if the writer is any good, he or she will have some points to make. And if I disagree with the viewpoint, I need to be able to articulate why (a good example is the article condemning the HPV vaccine that Timm posted a while back- read the article thoroughly and it was clear it was playing fast and loose with the facts, but I had to read it through a few times to figure out what was not ringing true, and that improved my critical thinking skills, so thanks for that, Timm. Seriously. ).

What I find irritating, honestly, is people attacking someone's points without reading the links the person has posted to support them. It's like they're so terrified they'll find something to change their minds they won't look at it. Read the link. Or don't comment on it. Whatever. Not so hard. Lord knows I'm not perfect in that respect myself, but at least I try.