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Old 06-13-2007, 07:45 PM
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I would say that is contributing to the bee dilemna....but I only had troubles with wasps on the golf course...and those dreaded bogey's
I got off track there. Sorry. The bee story reminded me of the grass story. Apparently this grass has the potential to overtake crops, etc...
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:57 PM
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The bad thing is that all of it could be tied in to the bee problem. The possible(probable)unintentional "hybridization" of honeybees is a severe problem, if they don't find an answer.
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The bad thing is that all of it could be tied in to the bee problem. The possible(probable)unintentional "hybridization" of honeybees is a severe problem, if they don't find an answer.
timm,
You might find this to be of interest. It relates to Canada's bees, but if you read the link, it seems that transgenic crops (bT modified) might be causal.
Honey bees have been hybridized for many years, but not the pollen that they depend on...especially if it has a built in insecticide.
http://commonground.ca/iss/0706191/cg191_bees.shtml
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:06 PM
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timm,
You might find this to be of interest. It relates to Canada's bees, but if you read the link, it seems that transgenic crops (bT modified) might be causal.
Honey bees have been hybridized for many years, but not the pollen that they depend on...especially if it has a built in insecticide.
http://commonground.ca/iss/0706191/cg191_bees.shtml
The scope of the "fix" would be mindboggling. I'm not smart enough to know where to start! Einsteins' theory was quite sobering!
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:21 PM
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The scope of the "fix" would be mindboggling. I'm not smart enough to know where to start! Einsteins' theory was quite sobering!
Timm,
Lots of great minds are working on this problem. Penn state seems to be leading the way, and here in NY Cornell is involved.
I'm not certain of a "fix" at this point, as the determination of the cause is as yet undefined. If it really derives from genetically altered crops (that have been under cultivation for years), the remedy will take a very long time.
That "genie" is already out of the bottle and into the environment.
It amazes me at all the crops that are effected. Heck, I never even thought of canola oil. Think of how many foodstuffs use that.
Ponder how that will impact all the "fast foods".
Yup! Einstein got it right again.
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Default Explanation for disappearing bees!

"The X-Files" is a surprisingly good movie that does not try to get cute and go away from the things that made the series such a national phenomenon. David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson seem out of place working with bomb squads and doing other mundane duties after their department is shut down by the government. However the two feel that something really major is up which involves alien colonization on Earth and a vast government cover-up that goes through the highest places in the U.S. political realm.

That evening, Mulder encounters a paranoid doctor, Alvin Kurtzweil (Martin Landau), who explains that the four victims were already dead, and the bomb was allowed to detonate to destroy the evidence as to how they died. Mulder enlists Scully to travel with him to the morgue to examine the bodies. They learn that the bodies have suffered a complete cellular breakdown, not at all caused by the bomb. Mulder leaves Scully in the morgue to fly back to Dallas to investigate evidence left from the explosion. He urges Scully to join him, and she shares evidence that the bodies were infected with an alien virus. They travel to the boy's home, but find a brand-new park in place of the hole in which he fell. Unsure what to do next, they wind up following a team of tanker trucks to a massive cornfield surrounding two bright, glowing domes. When they infiltrate the domes, they find simply a large empty space. However, grates on the floor open up, and a massive swarm of bees chase the agents into the cornfield. Soon helicopters fly overhead, and the two make a harrowing escape back to Washington.
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Interesting paragraph in this link that deals with the honeybee genome and its immunology's inability to detoxify. Kind of like HIV for bees.
http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=12178
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