Opinions High Finance

Exceller · #1 06-02-2006, 11:07 AM

Horse loves Belmont and his numbers are just as good as Sunrivers. Peaking at the right time. Bob and John snd Sunriver are the only two I think that could beat him. He will be the best value in the race so HF is likely my play.

Cajungator26 · #2 06-02-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Exceller

Horse loves Belmont and his numbers are just as good as Sunrivers. Peaking at the right time. Bob and John snd Sunriver are the only two I think that could beat him. He will be the best value in the race so HF is likely my play.

I like him... I just don't think he'll get a mile and a half.

Exceller · #3 06-02-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I like him... I just don't think he'll get a mile and a half.

Strong possibility he won't go that far but if the odds are right I will take a shot.

#4 06-02-2006, 11:14 AM

He is the pace setter and nothing more...should get well clear early, but Bluegrass Cat, Bob and John and Deputy Glitters will be in the second flight stalking him and those three classier colts will overhaul him when they want to...probably approaching the far turn....your winner is likely to come from whoever proves best of that group of three...

Exceller · #5 06-02-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

He is the pace setter and nothing more...should get well clear early, but Bluegrass Cat, Bob and John and Deputy Glitters will be in the second flight stalking him and those three classier colts will overhaul him when they want to...probably approaching the far turn....your winner is likely to come from whoever proves best of that group of three...

Impossible to throw Sunriver out. He is the likely winner but will be overbet.

#6 06-02-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Exceller

Impossible to throw Sunriver out. He is the likely winner but will be overbet.

That is a BOLD statement considering his stablemate - Bluegrass Cat - has ALWAYS been a faster horse and everybody knows it...I guarantee Johnny V had his choice of mount and you can see who he chose...I'm not discounting SUNRIVER all-in-all because he is improving, but I think 5-2 is far more atrractive on Bluegrass Cat, who has been faster since day one, than 7-2 on Sunriver - only a point higher in the odds...just my opinion bro..

Exceller · #7 06-02-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

That is a BOLD statement considering his stablemate - Bluegrass Cat - has ALWAYS been a faster horse and everybody knows it...I guarantee Johnny V had his choice of mount and you can see who he chose...I'm not discounting SUNRIVER all-in-all because he is improving, but I think 5-2 is far more atrractive on Bluegrass Cat, who has been faster since day one, than 7-2 on Sunriver - only a point higher in the odds...just my opinion bro..

Actually most people over the last two months thought Sunriver was the better of the two Pletcher colts. He has a win over the track and he needed his last race after his layoff. I still like High Finance.

#8 06-02-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller

Actually most people over the last two months thought Sunriver was the better of the two Pletcher colts. He has a win over the track and he needed his last race after his layoff. I still like High Finance.

Dont think he neede his last race as much as others believe..I watched him work at CD several times and know for a fact that Pletcher had him fne tuned for the Derby had there been another defection, so he was plenty fit heading into the Peter Pan....if you believe he has A LOT of room to imprive off of that race then I think you are looking at him the wrong way..

...the bottomline is that if Pletcher really wanted him in he should have had Keyed Entry come down with a "Cold", "fever" or "foot bruise" the day of entries and put in Sunriver in stead...I believe he could've been sitting on a decent race in the Derby, but he would not have finished better than Bluegrass Cat IMO...Bluegrass Cat has been the BEST Pletcher 3-year-old going long from day one...don't confuse that.

Good luck with High Finance..his price will certainly be good...I just think you'll get a thrill for a little over a half-mile before he is enhaled by Bob and John/Bluegrass Cat/Deputy Glitters...we'll see!

#9 06-02-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Exceller

Horse loves Belmont and his numbers are just as good as Sunrivers. Peaking at the right time. Bob and John snd Sunriver are the only two I think that could beat him. He will be the best value in the race so HF is likely my play.

Spoken like a true West Point member? Are you a West Point partner Exceller? If so good luck in the race.

Exceller · #10 06-02-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Spoken like a true West Point member? Are you a West Point partner Exceller? If so good luck in the race.

I wouldn't tell you if I was, but there are quite a few members out there.

#11 06-02-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Exceller

I wouldn't tell you if I was, but there are quite a few members out there.

Yeah I know, its pretty funny. You run into 15 people on a given day during Saratoga who tell you that "their" horse is running tomorrow, and when you ask who, they tell you the same horse all the others said, lol.
I don't think that they are taking an unreasonable shot here. Its tuly a wide open race and the Derby also rans who are running didn't earn very good sheet numbers that day. I guess I'm not seeing in Bluegrass Cat, Stepp, and Bob and John, and Deputy Glitters what the rest of you are seeing. I only see horses. Sunrivers last was very unimpressive, very slow race and life and death to beat a horse who isnt a whole lot.
I see no reason why an allowance horse couldnt get lucky with a good trip or good ride, especially one who is already stabled at Belmont and will be running on his home track. Belmont is a quirky track to race on, so having a win over it already is a big edge.

Exceller · #12 06-02-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Yeah I know, its pretty funny. You run into 15 people on a given day during Saratoga who tell you that "their" horse is running tomorrow, and when you ask who, they tell you the same horse all the others said, lol.
I don't think that they are taking an unreasonable shot here. Its tuly a wide open race and the Derby also rans who are running didn't earn very good sheet numbers that day. I guess I'm not seeing in Bluegrass Cat, Stepp, and Bob and John, and Deputy Glitters what the rest of you are seeing. I only see horses. Sunrivers last was very unimpressive, very slow race and life and death to beat a horse who isnt a whole lot.
I see no reason why an allowance horse couldnt get lucky with a good trip or good ride, especially one who is already stabled at Belmont and will be running on his home track. Belmont is a quirky track to race on, so having a win over it already is a big edge.

Sadly, I have nothing to do with this one.

#13 06-02-2006, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Exceller

Sadly, I have nothing to do with this one.

LOL!!! Tough luck dude. This is a nice one. Took him a while to come around, I know he was highly regarded and burned a lot of money at Gulf, of course one day he ran into Showing Up. Seems to be coming into his own. I can see taking a shot here, although I think I would have gone Leonard Richards with him at Delaware.
Did you have a piece of that freight train who won by 15 lengths up here last summer. I'm telling you, he would have been a NY bred champion, maybe an open graded stakes winner. His death was very very sad. His only race was incredible.

dr. fager · #14 06-02-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

LOL!!! Tough luck dude. This is a nice one. Took him a while to come around, I know he was highly regarded and burned a lot of money at Gulf, of course one day he ran into Showing Up. Seems to be coming into his own. I can see taking a shot here, although I think I would have gone Leonard Richards with him at Delaware.
Did you have a piece of that freight train who won by 15 lengths up here last summer. I'm telling you, he would have been a NY bred champion, maybe an open graded stakes winner. His death was very very sad. His only race was incredible.

He could still go to DE, that race isn't until mid to late July I believe.

Exceller · #15 06-02-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

LOL!!! Tough luck dude. This is a nice one. Took him a while to come around, I know he was highly regarded and burned a lot of money at Gulf, of course one day he ran into Showing Up. Seems to be coming into his own. I can see taking a shot here, although I think I would have gone Leonard Richards with him at Delaware.
Did you have a piece of that freight train who won by 15 lengths up here last summer. I'm telling you, he would have been a NY bred champion, maybe an open graded stakes winner. His death was very very sad. His only race was incredible.

Showing Up and Bernardini. I didn't own any of the horse that I think you are talking about. My brother and I are buying into another with Dollase.

#16 06-02-2006, 11:31 AM

I guess I'm not seeing in Bluegrass Cat, Stepp, Bob and John, and Deputy Glitters what the rest of you are seeing. I only see horses. Sunrivers last was very unimpressive, very slow race and life and death to beat a horse who isnt a whole lot.
I see no reason why an allowance horse couldnt get lucky with a good trip or good ride, especially one who is already stabled at Belmont and will be running on his home track. Belmont is a quirky track to race on, so having a win over it already is a big edge.

your post makes little sense, first you knock the two that have won on the track, then you say having a win on it is a big edge,
???? bipolar vision ??

#17 06-02-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Secretariat

I guess I'm not seeing in Bluegrass Cat, Stepp, Bob and John, and Deputy Glitters what the rest of you are seeing. I only see horses. Sunrivers last was very unimpressive, very slow race and life and death to beat a horse who isnt a whole lot.
I see no reason why an allowance horse couldnt get lucky with a good trip or good ride, especially one who is already stabled at Belmont and will be running on his home track. Belmont is a quirky track to race on, so having a win over it already is a big edge.

your post makes little sense, first you knock the two that have won on the track, then you say having a win on it is a big edge,
???? bipolar vision ??

Bob and John has never even run at Belmont you complete know nothing.

#18 06-02-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Bob and John has never even run at Belmont you complete know nothing.

opps he won at aqueduct, sorry you complete *******

Cpt.Bodgit · #19 06-02-2006, 11:39 AM

With this field not being close to an all star field why not take a shot with a horse that obviously likes the track and has run similar figures to others in the race. I think he has just as much of a shot as Glitters, Blue Grass or anyone else. Probably will be included on my tickets.

1st_Saturday_in_May · #20 06-02-2006, 11:34 AM

Bob and John has never run at Belmont - won the Wood at Aqueduct