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Old 06-12-2007, 02:53 PM
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I'm sure that your perspective is more relavent and informed than mine...and I'm serious when I say that...I just think that one way to get more people involved in the wagering aspect of the game is to start by getting more people interested in the game in general...my thoughts are that turning $2 bettors into $20 bettors is something to work on after you have gotten them interested in the first place....granted baseball, nascar, football, ect ect are not dependent upon wagering...in those sports the fans are spectators... in horseracing the fans are both spectators and participants...the more fans there are the more participants (ie people wagering) there will be....I'll shut up now and leave the thinking to the more informed.
The main problem is that people are lazy. It takes time to dope out all those pick 3's 4's 6's and so on. There is so much information to compute. As a beginner that information seems like it is in another language. Even simple bets could seem difficult. As opposed to knowing that the starting QB for the jets is out and they should lose by 30. The majority of the people on this site enjoy handicapping the races. If there is a way to simplify all the information for the real beginners, so they really understand why they should bet the closer because of all the speed in the race. Then maybe they could catch the fever and see how interesting and exciting the sport is. If they understand then maybe they will bet more based off their own opinions. Until then they will be betting two dollars on there favorite numbers, names and whoever the newspaper picks.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:03 PM
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The main problem is that people are lazy. It takes time to dope out all those pick 3's 4's 6's and so on. There is so much information to compute. As a beginner that information seems like it is in another language. Even simple bets could seem difficult. As opposed to knowing that the starting QB for the jets is out and they should lose by 30. The majority of the people on this site enjoy handicapping the races. If there is a way to simplify all the information for the real beginners, so they really understand why they should bet the closer because of all the speed in the race. Then maybe they could catch the fever and see how interesting and exciting the sport is. If they understand then maybe they will bet more based off their own opinions. Until then they will be betting two dollars on there favorite numbers, names and whoever the newspaper picks.
We are sort of saying the same thing....you are not gonna get very much new blood interested enough to put the effort into learning how to handicapp without getting them interested in the game in general. I bet that the majority of the people on here started off as small bettors and spectators...catching the fever so to speak probably did not start off without some interest in the spectator aspect of the game...

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Old 06-12-2007, 03:11 PM
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I bet that the majority of the people on here started off as small bettors and spectators...catching the fever so to speak probably did not start off without some interest in the spectator aspect of the game...
I would think that most people here probably became interested as kids. I remember my old man taking me to the track when I was a kid. He gave me $2 dollars a race. As I got older, I fell in love with the sport more and more. Now I watch racing all the time whether I am betting them or not. But for a first timer, going to the track and looking at the program can be a confusing moment. Without someone showing them what to look for, they might be missing out on a very exciting day.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:25 PM
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...I fell in love with the sport more and more. Now I watch racing all the time whether I am betting them or not....
You are a spectator and a participating bettor...it is the combination of the two that makes horseracing so great...but when your father first brought you to the track you were less of a bettor and perhaps more of a spectator...my Grandmother use to bring me to Saratoga for breakfast during the morning works...I was a spectator before I was a wager making participant.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:29 PM
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You are a spectator and a participating bettor...it is the combination of the two that makes horseracing so great...but when your father first brought you to the track you were less of a bettor and perhaps more of a spectator...my Grandmother use to bring to Saratoga for breakfast during the morning works...I was a spectator before I was a wager making participant.
I'm still mostly a spectator.

I'm in it for the horses.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:34 PM
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I'm still mostly a spectator.

I'm in it for the horses.
And there ain't nothing wrong with that at all
My point is that the more spectators that there are, the more bettors there will be...so to Mr Simon's point that the sport needs more bettor's...the way to get more bettors is to get more spectators first and expose them to those already infected with the fever...

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Old 06-12-2007, 03:37 PM
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And there ain't nothing wrong with that at all
My point is that the more spectators that there are, the more bettors their will be...so to Mr Simon's point that the sport needs more bettor's...the way to get more bettors is to get more spectators first and expose them to those already infected with the fever...
If I had the cashflow to lose, I'd bet more. Until then... only when I feel very strongly about something OR when I'm chatting with GPK late at night and we get a wild hair to play Mountaineer and DeShawn! Haha!
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