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Old 05-30-2007, 03:42 PM
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LOL at him trying the Stephen Foster. That's ripe.
What? Outside of Invasor, who is heads and shoulders better than Street Sense at Churchill? Perfect Drift?
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:02 PM
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Why would he take on older horses in the Stephen Foster when there are about 293 races for straight 3YO's between now and the Classic? Nafzger would get roasted by the world's supply of horse racing writers and fans if he were to make that kind of decision.
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:10 PM
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When was the last time a 3YO competed in the Stephen Foster let alone won the thing? Serious question.
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:15 PM
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When was the last time a 3YO competed in the Stephen Foster let alone won the thing? Serious question.
I don't know but what does that matter? Who is the better older horse that will surely defeat SS at Churchill? Pretty thin ranks in the older division right now, and he is very comfortable throwing out 110 or better beyers under the Twin Spires. He'd be tough to handle I think.
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:15 PM
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If he doesn't run in the Belmont.....he's not running in the Foster.

You'll see him again in early August in either the Haskell or Jim Dandy..probably 75/25 in favor of the Haskell.

After which he will run in the Travers.

And after that---anyone of a number of different things could happen. He may train up to the Classic off his Travers race...or he run in the Jockey Club Gold Cup....or he may run in one of two Meadowland Stakes...or he could make his final Classic prep in the Kentucky Cup Classic over Turfway's Polytrack. The reasoning for that being...his two big wins in the Juvie and Derby both came after running on Polytrack in the prior start.
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:32 PM
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If he doesn't run in the Belmont.....he's not running in the Foster.

You'll see him again in early August in either the Haskell or Jim Dandy..probably 75/25 in favor of the Haskell.

After which he will run in the Travers.

And after that---anyone of a number of different things could happen. He may train up to the Classic off his Travers race...or he run in the Jockey Club Gold Cup....or he may run in one of two Meadowland Stakes...or he could make his final Classic prep in the Kentucky Cup Classic over Turfway's Polytrack. The reasoning for that being...his two big wins in the Juvie and Derby both came after running on Polytrack in the prior start.
I think this was more a hypothetical discussion about whether Street Sense could win the SF against older horses, and not so much a predictive discussion about where he is likely to run. Personally although I think he could easily win the SF I highly doubt that he would run in it. However, I don't pretend to know where he'll run.
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:34 PM
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I do think that if he is around for the Classic that he'll do the poly prep as was suggested by DrugS. Its worked twice, why try another approach now?
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:03 PM
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Just a thought but if they think they can beat Curlin, and they think Curlin has a serious chance of winning the Belmont, they really need to go. Otherwise there's a serious likelihood of losing the 3yo Eclipse. Now if they're willing to risk that, fine, I'm not judging. If they think they've got a better chance at waiting until the Classic that's cool and a win there'll get them 3yo honors not to mention HOY.

Curlin could pick up other races without facing SS before the BCC so you can't count on the opportunity before then. Tafel was concerned about picking up the Juvenile championship, worrying that they'd say the 10 lengths in the BCJ was a fluke. I'd bet he's thinking about finding a way to balance what's best for the horse and how to get the Eclipse. That may or may not be the Belmont. I'm curious as to what course he thinks will get the job done.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:04 PM
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Do you guys think it was the poly to dirt that helps him run so well at Churchill, or just that he loves Churchill and has had very good setups in each?

Wanna know what I think?

















Actually see a better spot at CD myself...he is proven there and the distance probably will be better as well. What the hell...take on the old guys!!



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