The Hollyrock gold cup 7-8-6

#1 07-05-2006, 10:49 AM

deleted once

hoovesupsideyourhead · #2 07-05-2006, 11:27 AM

thanks for the ....................

Scav · #3 07-05-2006, 11:33 AM

Super Froilic has a HUGE shot here getting 8lbs into Lava Man....if I remember correctly, he is about 1-2 pts slower then Lava, getting those 8lbs could be the difference

Pedigree Ann · #4 07-05-2006, 11:36 AM

Where is Surf Cat? Are the connections admitting that he doesn't get 10f? Or what?

Scav · #5 07-05-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Where is Surf Cat? Are the connections admitting that he doesn't get 10f? Or what?

bad hoof, won't see until Del Mar

Buffymommy · #6 07-05-2006, 11:59 AM

OK, since Block deleted his posts, who is headed into the race?

1st_Saturday_in_May · #7 07-05-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy

OK, since Block deleted his posts, who is headed into the race?

Buffy, we are looking at a stellar (heavy sarcasm intended) field of 5

older horses

1. Lava Man (O'Neill/Nakatani) 124 lbs
2. Magnum (Arg) (Vienna/Valenzuela) 118
3. Seek Gold (Moquett/Borel) 117
4. Ace Blue (Brz) (Espinoza/Hollendorfer) 113
5. Super Frolic (Court/Cerin) 116

packerbacker7964 · #8 07-05-2006, 08:04 PM

What was the best Gold Cup ever ran? What was the best overall field put together ever? I don't keep up with the West Coast races Just wonder though.

ceejay · #9 07-05-2006, 08:11 PM

With only 5 going, Vic "contrive a race call" Stauffer will be in prime form.

2Hot4TV · #10 07-05-2006, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May

Buffy, we are looking at a stellar (heavy sarcasm intended) field of 5

older horses

1. Lava Man (O'Neill/Nakatani) 124 lbs
2. Magnum (Arg) (Vienna/Valenzuela) 118
3. Seek Gold (Moquett/Borel) 117
4. Ace Blue (Brz) (Espinoza/Hollendorfer) 113
5. Super Frolic (Court/Cerin) 116

With $750,000 purse at 1 1/4 miles on the dirt for 3 yo and up you would think you would have more horses running if the west coast horse are so easy. What up with that?

2Hot4TV · #11 07-05-2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Super Froilic has a HUGE shot here getting 8lbs into Lava Man....if I remember correctly, he is about 1-2 pts slower then Lava, getting those 8lbs could be the difference

If anybody is going to run with Lava Man its Magnum. The shift in weight at 1 1/4 mile will move magnum up at least 3 lenghts. Is that enough?

Honu · #12 07-05-2006, 10:38 PM

So does anyone know how Doug O'Neils horses have been running since they were sent to the detention barn? I venture to say if anyone was gonna beat Lavaman now would be the time it was gonna happen.

Rupert Pupkin · #13 07-06-2006, 01:36 AM

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bad hoof, won't see until Del Mar

It's actually worse than that. He will miss Del Mar. He won't be back until Oak Tree.

Rupert Pupkin · #14 07-06-2006, 01:38 AM

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So does anyone know how Doug O'Neils horses have been running since they were sent to the detention barn? I venture to say if anyone was gonna beat Lavaman now would be the time it was gonna happen.

For the Gold Cup, LM will have to go to the detention barn 24 hours in advance. They won't even be able to give him the milkshake the day before.

2Hot4TV · #15 07-06-2006, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

For the Gold Cup, LM will have to go to the detention barn 24 hours in advance. They won't even be able to give him the milkshake the day before.

So you think its the milkshake? I think that all things change and it a combo of things that they are trying to nail down and blaming the biacarbinates is easy to do. How many tracks test for biacarbs?

2 Dollar Bill · #16 07-06-2006, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

For the Gold Cup, LM will have to go to the detention barn 24 hours in advance. They won't even be able to give him the milkshake the day before.

Does He get a Hamburger & fries..with that shake ?

Rupert Pupkin · #17 07-06-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

So you think its the milkshake? I think that all things change and it a combo of things that they are trying to nail down and blaming the biacarbinates is easy to do. How many tracks test for biacarbs?

I've got no idea what O"Neil gives his horses, but he did just get nailed with a bicarbonate positive. He obviously does give his horses milkshakes. I'm sure there's more to it than that but at the very least we know he at least gives his horses milkshakes.

ceejay · #18 07-06-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

If anybody is going to run with Lava Man its Magnum. The shift in weight at 1 1/4 mile will move magnum up at least 3 lenghts. Is that enough?

I give Magnum a shot here, especially with Lava Man at 2-5. I think Seek gold will take too much money: I don't think this one will blow up like the Foster. I'll play magnum at any price > 7/2.

Buffymommy · #19 07-06-2006, 10:59 AM

I am kinda leaning towards Magnum as well. Just because Lava Man will be such little tiny odds. I will go with a tri box of LM; Magnum & SF.