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Old 05-14-2007, 03:18 PM
ArlJim78 ArlJim78 is offline
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YOU should RE-READ them again because it is obvious that YOU have missed the point.

In fact, YOU should RE-READ Steve's posts as well. To his credit, he is intelligent enough to understand my point and replied accordingly. As for the rest of the respondents...the idiotic comments speak for themselves.
Idiotic? Like comparing the handling of Sumwonlovesyou to Teuflesberg?
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Old 05-14-2007, 03:31 PM
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Idiotic? Like comparing the handling of Sumwonlovesyou to Teuflesberg?
I saw that....

While the board owned filly was placed, on form, way over her head in the KEE race....she also had never run on turf, had a right to improve on turf from a pedigree standpoint, and the reality is that there are no N2L claiming races on turf that time of year...so, if you want to run her on the turf at that point, you have to do so in a very tough spot.

After her defeat, she was wisely placed, and ran a nice race.

As far as Teuflesberg goes, there are a lot of soft Grade 3-ish stake races for 3-year-olds, that carry VERY inflated purses---he'd be a lot better served in those races....than getting his butt kicked in Triple Crown series races.

And I'm sure everyone but Fearless Leader knows this---though, he may know this as well.
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Old 05-14-2007, 04:07 PM
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I saw that....

While the board owned filly was placed, on form, way over her head in the KEE race....she also had never run on turf, had a right to improve on turf from a pedigree standpoint, and the reality is that there are no N2L claiming races on turf that time of year...so, if you want to run her on the turf at that point, you have to do so in a very tough spot.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm no trainer and I don't pretend to know why Chuck spotted her where he did at Keeneland. However I have seen it happen many times that a trainer will start off with a new aquisition by moving them up into a spot where they can't be claimed away. My thinking is that they are trying to assess what they have, to be able to draw their own conclusions about the horses current class and fitness, and in this case to also check out how the filly took to the grass, and all the while gaining some needed fitness. Whatever the reason was it was validated in the very next outing when she ran her best race to date, still being spotted higher than she ever had in the past I believe. There is just no way that it even remotely compares to Tueflesberg.

You make a very good point about Tueflesberg. Instead of being an alsoran in Gr1 events, there are numerous softer good money spots restricted to 3yo's.
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