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Old 05-08-2007, 11:30 AM
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I wish Pletcher would run Circular Quay as it seems like a perfect spot.
I have a feeling that a one-turn mile might end up being the perfect spot for Circular Quay, Any Given Saturday, and Scat Daddy.

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Old 05-08-2007, 11:57 AM
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I have a feeling that a one-turn mile might end up being the perfect spot for Circular Quay, Any Given Saturday, and Scat Daddy.

NT
I was actually half-jokingly goign to suggest CQ in the Met Mile.
Have any 3-year olds had any luck in this race? Seems a bit lofty to face older for the first time in such a tough spot, but then again, there aren't any Ghostzappers pointing to it, either.
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Old 05-08-2007, 11:59 AM
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I was actually half-jokingly goign to suggest CQ in the Met Mile.
Have any 3-year olds had any luck in this race? Seems a bit lofty to face older for the first time in such a tough spot, but then again, there aren't any Ghostzappers pointing to it, either.

Only Conquistador Cielo, Holy Bull, Honour and Glory and Dixie Brass immediately come to mind.
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:13 PM
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That Honour and Glory race is one of my Belmont favorites. He squeezed up the rail at 12-1 to beat You and I and Afternoon Delites. I think he set a stakes record in that one.

Few people could believe that Lukas entered him after he got fried in the Derby three weeks earlier.

I couldn't believe it when he entered Cat Thief in the Met Mile after running in the Preakness and he was bet down to 2 and change.
Honour and Glory wired the field I believe.
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:25 PM
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a recap of Utopia's win
http://nyra.com/belmont/stories/Westchester.html
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Old 05-08-2007, 07:38 PM
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Might Lawyer Ron race?
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:28 PM
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Utopia isnt much. Then again it doesnt take much to beat Sun King and Political Farce. This year's Met Mile is in trouble if Sun King is the most accomplished horse going.
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:42 PM
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This year's Met Mile is in trouble if Sun King is the most accomplished horse going.
Yeah, I guess winning a G2 last year and being 2nd in two G1s (by a nostril to Invasor, no less) is just pathetic.
Of course I understand people do tend to trash Sun King as if it's a chemical dependency-thing, but I don't get it.
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:45 PM
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Hes a mediocre horse and 2nd only counts in horseshoes. each of his 2nd place finishes in grade 1's were hang jobs. he caught Invasor and Silver Train off their games just a bit and still couldnt take advantage of that.
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:46 PM
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Of course I understand people do tend to trash Sun King as if it's a chemical dependency.

I like that.....many pies.
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Old 05-08-2007, 07:47 PM
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That Honour and Glory race is one of my Belmont favorites. He squeezed up the rail at 12-1 to beat You and I and Afternoon Delites. I think he set a stakes record in that one.
I think You and I might have been done racing by that point... It was that very fast Dutrow sprinter Lite The Fuse and Afternoon Deelites that DH'ed for the place...
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:50 PM
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Exacta in the MET Mile

Chatain 7/2
Lawyer Ron 4/1

book it!!!


******If Angel "I love to scratch more than Robert Frankel" Penna actually runs
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Old 05-09-2007, 08:02 AM
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I am worried that Sun King just doesnt know how to win. He runs very competitive races but for some reason he doesnt seem to cross the wire first. I believe his last win was the Commonwealth at Keeneland. So I guess he is 1 for his last 8 or 9 races.
It's hard to believe he would have beaten Invasor last year---if he hadn't done his best impersonation of Perfect Drift or Balletto....although, he's shown a good deal of hang in many other races.

When you think of last years Whitney Handicap, you think of the old Chinese Proverb "three smelly tailors can defeat one Zhuge Liang."

Perhaps Invasor hasn't yet matched the unparalleled brillance that the warlord stratigist displayed in 3rd century China....

But one smelly jockey and two pretty decent horses weren't quite enough to defeat one Invasor last summer.

The premature inside move by Jara..to engage Flower Alley early, combined with eye-balling a Travers winner through 5f's in a stressful midrace battle, combined with having a fresh Sun King ready to mop up the lone survivor of that battle...compounded to give Invasor a legit excuse had he lost...but to his credit, he desperately fought off Sun King.

Here's a great picture of them off the turn, eye-ball to eye-ball, both with ears pinned...Flower Alley leaning on him a little, about to finally crack...and have horses like We Can Seek and West Virgina blow past him in the very late stages. Sun King's ready to pounce.

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Old 05-09-2007, 08:32 AM
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Out of curiosity DrugS, how long are you going to keeping harping on the imaginary bad ride on Flower Alley? While obviously he didn't enjoy the cleverest of trips, he got absolutely drowned in the race, as well as his two subsequent efforts. Clearly it wasn't the trip that did him in. Horses get less than clever rides all the time....do you bet all these horses back even when they don't run a step?

You act as though it was Flower Alley's poorly timed ride in the Whitney that was responsible for his complete disintegration. Considering the subsequent events it was an inconsequential blip on his doomed career.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:00 PM
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I was actually half-jokingly goign to suggest CQ in the Met Mile.
Have any 3-year olds had any luck in this race? Seems a bit lofty to face older for the first time in such a tough spot, but then again, there aren't any Ghostzappers pointing to it, either.
The last three-year old to win it was Honour and Glory in 1996 wearing the colors of Michael Tabor. Don't ask me who the last three-year old was to run in it though, I think it's been a while. Before him there were two 3 year old winners in three years, as Dixie Brass took it in 1992 and Holy Bull in 1994.

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Old 05-08-2007, 12:07 PM
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I was actually half-jokingly goign to suggest CQ in the Met Mile.
Have any 3-year olds had any luck in this race? Seems a bit lofty to face older for the first time in such a tough spot, but then again, there aren't any Ghostzappers pointing to it, either.
Here's a list of winners
http://www.bloodlines.net/TB/RaceRes...anHandicap.htm
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