The Rocket is BACK

#1 05-07-2007, 12:19 PM

Agree Kenny.

I am so tired of this act. Im Roger and Im here to save the world by going 5 innngs.

Please do us all a favor and quit retiring. Just quit.

Cannon Shell · #2 05-07-2007, 12:56 PM

Unless they plan on using him as a middle relief pitcher they have not signifigantly upgraded their team. As ppdgn said in the above post he is a 6 inning pitcher at best now.

SentToStud · #3 05-07-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Unless they plan on using him as a middle relief pitcher they have not signifigantly upgraded their team. As ppdgn said in the above post he is a 6 inning pitcher at best now.

If he gets 20-22 starts, figure 130-140 innings. This is definitely an upgrade. How can it not be? And if they stumble into the playoffs, ....

timmgirvan · #4 05-07-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

If he gets 20-22 starts, figure 130-140 innings. This is definitely an upgrade. How can it not be? And if they stumble into the playoffs, ....

Stud: you're dealing with some angry people here! Yes..Clemens is arrogant(as my post a week ago mentioned)but he helps many pitchers and is a complete gamer! Probably 18 starts...heads into playoffs as a wiild card with a 15-3 record! If I could do what Roger does, you probably couldn't get my head thru a doorway! And if the S.I. shot is any indication...we now know why Roger flew home between starts during his last tenure with the Bombers

Hickory Hill Hoff · #5 05-07-2007, 04:22 PM

I've been a Yankee fan for almost thirty years...it was a disgrace how they annonuced Clemens yesterday. They have "spit" in the face of Yankee tradition! First it was the Bernie thing and then the problems with Marino...now this. Bad Karma for this team...it WILL blow up in their face & won't make the playoffs this year! "Goes around, comes around". Bernie is gone...Mariano will be at the end of the year and Mr. Clemens will be back in Texas...counting his money!!!

timmgirvan · #6 05-07-2007, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

I've been a Yankee fan for almost thirty years...it was a disgrace how they annonuced Clemens yesterday. They have "spit" in the face of Yankee tradition! First it was the Bernie thing and then the problems with Marino...now this. Bad Karma for this team...it WILL blow up in their face & won't make the playoffs this year! "Goes around, comes around". Bernie is gone...Mariano will be at the end of the year and Mr. Clemens will be back in Texas...counting his money!!!

HHH: I don't know how they spit in the face of tradition? I thought it was kinda cool for the fans at the game to hear the news that way. Bernie was toast anyway...and Rivera will be a Yankee in 2008,imo

Cannon Shell · #7 05-07-2007, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Probably 18 starts...heads into playoffs as a wiild card with a 15-3 record!

your kiddin right?

timmgirvan · #8 05-07-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

your kiddin right?

If Clemens posts a 2.30 ERA as he did last year...and with the bats in that lineup, why not? Please remember he had 6-7 losses where the Astros scored 1 run!

Cannon Shell · #9 05-07-2007, 04:57 PM

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If Clemens posts a 2.30 ERA as he did last year...and with the bats in that lineup, why not? Please remember he had 6-7 losses where the Astros scored 1 run!

If he wins 10 games that will be a huge year. He cant carry the games into the 8th and 9th any more so he will lose some decisions there. He is a great player that probably has some more left but this is not some kind of deal that will put the Yankees over the top. They still need to get and stay healthy and Torre has been burning the mediocre bullpen up. Mussina and Pettite are question marks to stay healthy and Hughes is a rookie that is already hurt. The japanese guy has looked shaky, Proctor's arm is in danger of falling off, Mariano is slipping, Farnsworth is shaky, Burney is getting used an awful lot. I just see a lot of holes in the staff even with Clemens 30 or so innings a month

Cannon Shell · #10 05-07-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

If he gets 20-22 starts, figure 130-140 innings. This is definitely an upgrade. How can it not be? And if they stumble into the playoffs, ....

They need help in the bullpen which plays everyday not once a week. He is a good pitcher but he is no longer an ace. Remember that he has been accumulating stats in the NL and he is 45. Sure he helps but they have bigger issues that seemingly are not going to get fixed.