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Old 05-06-2007, 05:05 PM
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Does this woman have a problem?Is there something that I am not seeing in the past performances that she is?I do NOT even think this woman can read a condition book.I totally agree with Andy Beyer,in that this woman is on a mission to destroy Teuflesberg.What the F_ck is she thinking?This horse has ZERO graded stakes earnings,has been getting his ass handed to him,and now she is taking him to the Preakness?You have got to be kidding me!!God help the horses under her care.This is almost to the point of abuse.And,she is now doing the same thing with some of her other horses,Little Springer and Cape of Storms.Both were entered last week in the G-3 Kentucky breeders cup,and neither of them showed anything that would make a sensible trainer enter them in that race.I think this is the same way it all started out for Teuflesberg.Does she smoke good weed?Or is she just naturally stupid?Sorry,but if I was Nick Zito,I would be on the phone telling her to stop telling people she used to work for me,because in my opinion all she is doing is embarrassing him by saying that.Is there anything anyone can do to stop this idiot?
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Old 05-06-2007, 05:25 PM
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I have to agree with you.

It's a hard business and she's had little success so far but I admire her effort. She's been schooled by two of the best and I suspect she knows a little about training. Teuflesberg won the Southwest Stakes, a 250k race and has hit the board in several graded stake races, saying he had zero graded earnings is incorrect, he had over $100,000 or he wouldn't have made the Derby. He lost the Bluegrass by a neck...I don't see why he didn't belong in the Derby field based on his past performances. It's funny...folks always complain about how infrequently horses run then when someone actually runs their horse, they complain about that. If the horse is sound, why not go to a track that historically with tight turns and a shorter distance favors horses with speed? It will be the horse's 6th start of the season...I don't see a problem!
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Old 05-06-2007, 06:28 PM
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It's a hard business and she's had little success so far but I admire her effort. She's been schooled by two of the best and I suspect she knows a little about training. Teuflesberg won the Southwest Stakes, a 250k race and has hit the board in several graded stake races, saying he had zero graded earnings is incorrect, he had over $100,000 or he wouldn't have made the Derby. He lost the Bluegrass by a neck...I don't see why he didn't belong in the Derby field based on his past performances. It's funny...folks always complain about how infrequently horses run then when someone actually runs their horse, they complain about that. If the horse is sound, why not go to a track that historically with tight turns and a shorter distance favors horses with speed? It will be the horse's 6th start of the season...I don't see a problem!
This horse has been campaigning non-stop since October racing 10 times in seven months on six tracks. He is running against the top of the heap for the most part and against horses that have had breaks. While she has every right to run him where she wants, it doesn't appear that she has any real plan other than finding the next race on the schedule that is about 3-4 weeks out.

The horse has been game in many of these races, but it does seem to me that the well has run dry and he needs a break and or some class relief. There is nothing about his derby performance that would indicate that he will bounce back in two weeks against similar competition.

And using the BlueGrass as evidence that this horse belongs at this level is crazy. You have to know what a pace aberration that race was. All of his other Graded stakes attempts were marginal at best, and often horrible.
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Old 05-06-2007, 06:38 PM
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It's not just Teuflesberg. Look at her entries this entire past week at Churchill. She had a horse in most every stakes, they were always the longest price on the board, and I don't think that one even hit the board. She had 3 alone in the 2 year old stakes on Thursday.
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Old 05-06-2007, 06:55 PM
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might be the naseem rauf of stakes racing
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Old 05-06-2007, 08:06 PM
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Nobody is knocking the horse -- he's done a hell of a job for the price that they paid for him and he's brought home some nice checks.

Imagine what he could be doing if he was put in proper spots? Being life and death in every race to suck in enough air to last for a check is certainly a noble accomplishment, but not a good barometer of what this horse can do. Sanders doesn't get her abysmal percentages in a void -- Teuflesburg is just her highest profile example of a horse getting thrown to the wolves at every turn in hopes of sucking up some purse money. Everyone here has been saying for some time now that this horse would be a formidable match in races in the 6-8 furlong range, but for the time being it doesn't look like he'll get the shot. He's been entered in these spots dating all the way back to the very beginning of his career, and I second the poster who said that at some point Sanders is going to regret her endless campaign because the well is going to dry up one of these days.

Sure, she'll have made a pretty penny on it with his earnings, but she'll have hurt the horse's chances to develop into the type of horse who can possibly legitimately contend in big races at less than a mile.

If it's not out of stupidity or pure brazenness, what is it? It's clear that she's not using the money for anything constructive -- like a dye job better than a $9 pharmacy box or a Wal-Mart pantsuit for Derby Day.
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Old 05-06-2007, 08:23 PM
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might be the naseem rauf of stakes racing
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:20 PM
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It's not just Teuflesberg. Look at her entries this entire past week at Churchill. She had a horse in most every stakes, they were always the longest price on the board, and I don't think that one even hit the board. She had 3 alone in the 2 year old stakes on Thursday.
That's what I'm saying.She did the exact same thing with Teuflesberg,same races I think.She has no idea what she is doing,and her .02 win percentage shows it.She is ruining these fine animals.
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:37 PM
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This woman is completely clueless. She has no idea how to place her horses. If she "learned" that from Zito, he isn't much of a teacher. I feel sorry for the horse.
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:47 PM
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Someone needs to let her know there are some big races for 3yo spinters where she could actually cash a check. Since she is paid on what the horse earns.
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