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I think that this being the "me" generation has absolutely nothing to do with there being no support for this war. People supported WWII because it was a noble endeavor that was necessary to stabilize the world. This one is very different in that there was nothing noble about starting this war. It's hard to ask an entire nation to sacrifice for a war that they don't support and that the majority never have, especially when the war was started against a country that posed zero threat to us. The two wars are apples and oranges, and I don't think the attitude towards this war is the result of the "me" generation, it's the result of frustration that we started a war because we felt like it, not because we had to. |
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![]() i understand that bill. what i don't understand is A: ignoring the vacuum that removal of hussein would create, hence the strengthening of iran we are currently witnessing, and B the half assed way we have gone about this 'war'. we didn't get the support necessary, everyone thought saddam was a paper tiger, and that continuing the un sanctions, etc, would keep him on a short leash.
yes, he supports terrorists, and that is a concern...but i don't think HIS support was any stronger, or more of a threat, than say syria, or iran, or even some of the sauds. that whole area is a festering sore on the face of the earth, but we've severely bungled this job. hopefully not beyond the point of recovery. problem is, so many just want to quit--there has to be a way to straighten out this mess, but the current admin doesn't seem to have what it will take.
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Unfortunately sanctions only work with a compassionate gov't, otherwise it just punishes the people and is terribly misguided. The Iraqi people suffered due to the sanctions, but there was no way they were going to put pressure on Hussein to comply with the mandates as a result of those sanctions - he would just kill them. Hussein simply took advantage of the oil for food program to build his war chest and starved his people. The only thing sanctions did was give him an excuse to offer his people for their suffering ("It's the great satan's fault") and buy time. I vote for "B" above - This discussion can go on for ever, but I need to get back to handicapping ![]() Bill |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story...022065,00.html I think the place will be a powderkeg until we finally accept we've got to find an energy source that isn't oil. The user does not get to dictate terms to the pusher.
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and i think it stinks that we went over and basically destroyed the country, and now so many just want to leave, turn over this huge mess to a bunch of people who didn't ask for all this. that would be like me coming over, trashing your house, picking up two or three pieces of china, and then saying well, gotta go-it's all yours, handle it.
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So using your example, that's like you and me being on a team. You say we should go trash Storm Cadet's house, and I say in no uncertain terms that we shouldn't. You get to make the decisions though, so you go do it anyway. Then when we get in trouble, you turn to me and say "don't like it? fix it yourself." |
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I agree in not leaving a mess that we made. But we made a mess that is politically impossible for us to clean now with the mistakes that were made in the beginning. |
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"Mistakes"??? Buddy, this was done with intent. It was calculated. Calling it a "mistake" is bogus....an excuse. Also, earlier in this thread it seems that someone has a bit of confusion between "Operation Desert Storm" and "Operation Iraqi Freedom". Perhaps he's one of the remaining 28% that's still a believer. Let the war crimes trials begin! |