Sad Day for Beyer Haters

[ninetoone]

I'm glad Beyer finally picked the winner, but unfortunately it was the favorite & alot of people/experts had it. War Emblem @ 20-1 w/the top prep BSF was his opportunity to become a handicapping "God"...how did he miss that one? That must p*ss him off...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I take speed figures very seriously, in dirt races run at commonly run distances anyway, and there are a lot of times when I'm not betting the horse with the top figures.

If you look at the Derby, Curlin was the horse with the top last-out figure, and Beyer wrote a piece about him (that I was no fan of) knocking his chances...saying he'd finish in the second half of the field.

Knowing how fast a horse is capable of running is very important, but, the way the figure was earned is more important than all else.

And, there are going to be times when a horse is dominant on figures, and all of his dominant figures are numbers he earned with no candy trips, or smoke and mirrors....and I still will play against the horse because I project the way the race will be run figures to work against said horse.

I think it's a big misconception that people who take figures seriously use them as the main basis for all handicapping opinions.

[Pointg5]

In his column about Curlin, he stated that he'd be lucky to finish in the Top 10, I wouldn't say it was a banner day for Beyer. They do not pay out for last place in the mutuels, while it was a good guess, it gets you nothing. Street Sense was the logical pick and he should get credit for not trying to go outside of the box, but it wasn't like Beyer crushed this thing.

Thorograph loved SS and they liked Hard Spun, not so much Curlin, but at least they had the exacta.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

In his column about Curlin, he stated that he'd be lucky to finish in the Top 10, I wouldn't say it was a banner day for Beyer. They do not pay out for last place in the mutuels, while it was a good guess, it gets you nothing.

I guarantee you if you want to place a bet on the last place finisher, you can do so.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I guarantee you if you want to place a bet on the last place finisher, you can do so.

Not in the mutuals, maybe in some off shore book, but I said mutuals...

[SentToStud]

It's wonderful that there's a thread on this even if the last time this would have been appropriate is when Spanky and Alfalfa were all the rage.