Not raced at two results

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Somer, training is different than it was just decades ago. So going back a 100 years doesn't do it for me. The layoff issues are much less of a problem for me. Silly things like geldings being an issue was thankfully disproved. Flukes happen and slow horses like Giacomo occasionally win. Essentially it isn't meaningless but it isn't meaningful either. Races at 2, maybe is an issue. I don't like Curlin who is light on experience, but if he had the same number of races so far and his first one was on Dec 31st I doubt that would drastically change anyone's view of him.

Randy...I've been waiting for you....
Nor should it...FuPeg raced the last week in December for his only 2yo race...not many of us jumped off him and we wouldn't if he raced a week later. Again...common sense! I list angles with the assumption that most handicappers have common sense. I agree that training (and breeding) has changed over the past century but these angles have held the last 20, 10, 5 years as well. Again, if I like Curlin, I'll bet Curlin but part of "liking" him is being able to convince myself that he can do what the likes of Pulpit, Indian Charlie and so many others couldn't.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Randy...I've been waiting for you....
Nor should it...FuPeg raced the last week in December for his only 2yo race...not many of us jumped off him and we wouldn't if he raced a week later. Again...common sense! I list angles with the assumption that most handicappers have common sense. I agree that training (and breeding) has changed over the past century but these angles have held the last 20, 10, 5 years as well. Again, if I like Curlin, I'll bet Curlin but part of "liking" him is being able to convince myself that he can do what the likes of Pulpit, Indian Charlie and so many others couldn't.

LOL, I feel like Darth Vader....Curlin won't do it so your angles will be safe another year.

[packerbacker7964]

I think the racing at two thing also brings in the fact lot's of good horses race at an early age. If they are well breed the owners are more inclined to race them early because they were bought at an early sale. Late foals are another thing as is an early problem with their body's.