Pino's quote

[Scurlogue Champ]

I'm definitely not saying they can't or won't finish in the money with these tactics.

I just think they are sending and letting the chips fall as they may.

If Hard Spun is superior, he will skip away and win.

All this stuff about the pace not being very tough is what I am debating. These guys are sending in my opinion. And the pace will be hot.

This "taking back" stuff is for the press.

After that work this horse has no shot. He's done. Might as well ship him to Delaware and run him in the ***** Fart Stakes.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

After that work this horse has no shot. He's done. Might as well ship him to Delaware and run him in the ***** Fart Stakes.

Totally incorrect. The work has nothing to do with it. If he's short, it's because of the poor decision not to run in between the Lanes End and the Blue Grass.

Also recall the track was a highway yesterday, it was almost a second fast at 5F than normal.

Originally Posted by philcski

Totally incorrect. The work has nothing to do with it. If he's short, it's because of the poor decision not to run in between the Lanes End and the Blue Grass.

Also recall the track was a highway yesterday, it was almost a second fast at 5F than normal.

Of course. That work is just the last straw in a handful of them. The connections have to arguably be one of the worst owner-trainer combos in the history of the game. It's laughable what they've done to this horse.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Of course. That work is just the last straw in a handful of them. The connections have to arguably be one of the worst owner-trainer combos in the history of the game. It's laughable what they've done to this horse.

Oh, I agree, the owner sucks. He sticks his nose in way too much. I think you're cutting down Jones a little unfairly though; the guy is a good horseman and unfortunately due to the nature of the business must sometimes succumb to the owner's decisions.

Originally Posted by philcski

Oh, I agree, the owner sucks. He sticks his nose in way too much. I think you're cutting down Jones a little unfairly though; the guy is a good horseman and unfortunately due to the nature of the business must sometimes succumb to the owner's decisions.

Yeah Jones is a good trainer and really he's not to blame. I can't say he deserves criticism because really who would risk losing a horse like Hard Spun? It would be nice to see Jones punch the owner in the throat after the race though.

[The Bid]

That race at TWP doesnt translate. Big problem with the poly is going to be prepping a derby horse on it. Its crazy to train a horse over poly, then run at CHD. I dont think Hardspuns run in the Lanes End can be used as a gauge, and I dont think hes a superior animal. I think he will finish up the track. 10th or worse

Jones is cowboy enough to punch him in the throat

Originally Posted by The Bid

That race at TWP doesnt translate. Big problem with the poly is going to be prepping a derby horse on it. Its crazy to train a horse over poly, then run at CHD. I dont think Hardspuns run in the Lanes End can be used as a gauge, and I dont think hes a superior animal. I think he will finish up the track. 10th or worse

Jones is cowboy enough to punch him in the throat

I think Street Sense has a huge advantage training at Churchill. It's going to be interesting to see how the Keeneland shippers fare over the course. I'm not convinced they'll be fit enough to contend down the stretch.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Bid

That race at TWP doesnt translate. Big problem with the poly is going to be prepping a derby horse on it. Its crazy to train a horse over poly, then run at CHD. I dont think Hardspuns run in the Lanes End can be used as a gauge, and I dont think hes a superior animal. I think he will finish up the track. 10th or worse

Jones is cowboy enough to punch him in the throat

Damn right he is!

Check the replay of the Lecomte if you need a quality dirt start. I'd be shocked if he finished 10th or worse...