Scat Daddy

[Mortimer]

I noticed that as well ,Steve.


I had plenty of time on my hands.

[AeWingnut]

I agree Hard Spun is the best bred horse in the Derby. Great profile.

I have to say that if you are looking for a Derby win you don't prep or manage Hard Spun via Turfway then sit on it. One of the best horse players I know liked Hard Spun a lot. The lack of a prep against any of the contenders is very troubling.

sorry - didn't mean to hijack the Scat Daddy thread.

The one thing Scat Daddy has going for him that me and Cajun tout is he has the proper amount of syllables.

[miraja2]

I'm not a big fan of Hard Spun either. I don't give him a pass for his performance at Oaklawn the way many seem to do, and his comeback on poly hasn't changed my mind.
HOWEVER, there is a lot more to like about him (in terms of pedigree and performance) than there is about Scat Daddy (who I just noticed, is Sports Illustrated's pick to win the race).
As for Sam P.....I like his chances to hit the board at a price. Along with having a deceptive race in his last at Santa Anita, he has a 10f-type pedigree.

[JJP]

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...addy%27s+Beyer

Originally Posted by miraja2

As for Sam P.....I like his chances to hit the board at a price. Along with having a deceptive race in his last at Santa Anita, he has a 10f-type pedigree.

Okay what am I missing? I guess it was blackthroat or coach Billick or someone who mentioned this earlier. What is the evidence that his form has been "darkened" or deceptive? I just see a slow horse. What do you see.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by easy goer

Okay what am I missing? I guess it was blackthroat or coach Billick or someone who mentioned this earlier. What is the evidence that his form has been "darkened" or deceptive? I just see a slow horse. What do you see.

I already said why I feel his form is somewhat darkened.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by easy goer

Okay what am I missing? I guess it was blackthroat or coach Billick or someone who mentioned this earlier. What is the evidence that his form has been "darkened" or deceptive? I just see a slow horse. What do you see.

Don't get me wrong....nobody is going to be confusing Sam P with Seattle Slew anytime soon. Is he a likely winner? No. BUT he will most likely be a HUGE price in the race and I think he will probably have a much better chance to hit the board than his odds indicate. Look at his race in the Robert Lewis and compare it to the top efforts of the top colts in the Derby. Other than Street Sense's BCJ, it compares rather nicely and yet, they will all be in the 4/1 - 10/1 range and he will most likely be MUCH higher than that.
Other aspects of Sam P. that interst me are:
He has an allowance win over the CD track defeating (among others) Chelokee.
His 5f work over the CD track on 4/23 was sharp.
He has a 10f-type pedigree.
He certainly won't be my top pick or anything, but as a live longshot.....he is interesting.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Don't get me wrong....nobody is going to be confusing Sam P with Seattle Slew anytime soon. Is he a likely winner? No. BUT he will most likely be a HUGE price in the race and I think he will probably have a much better chance to hit the board than his odds indicate. Look at his race in the Robert Lewis and compare it to the top efforts of the top colts in the Derby. Other than Street Sense's BCJ, it compares rather nicely and yet, they will all be in the 4/1 - 10/1 range and he will most likely be MUCH higher than that.
Other aspects of Sam P. that interst me are:
He has an allowance win over the CD track defeating (among others) Chelokee.
His 5f work over the CD track on 4/23 was sharp.
He has a 10f-type pedigree.
He certainly won't be my top pick or anything, but as a live longshot.....he is interesting.

All the same reasons I've been following him for months now (I LOVE the way he is bred too!) My biggest concern with him is he was a bit of a nutcase prior to the Santa Anita Derby..which is what brought him to Churchill earlier in the first place. I haven't heard word on whether they are taking the blinkers off of him or not.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

All the same reasons I've been following him for months now (I LOVE the way he is bred too!) My biggest concern with him is he was a bit of a nutcase prior to the Santa Anita Derby..which is what brought him to Churchill earlier in the first place. I haven't heard word on whether they are taking the blinkers off of him or not.

Oh geesh, and the only picture I've seen of him in any of the Derby Galleries he is acting up:

http://www.horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=57965

[Danzig]

hard spun:

http://www.horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=57076




http://www.horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=57071