My derby top 7

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I would have to say right now, that I stand like this:

Street Sense
Any Given Saturday
Curlin
Great Hunter
Nobiz Like Shobiz
Cowtown Cat
Scat Daddy

I knew it... you had to put him in the 7th spot, didn't you? LMAO

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I knew it... you had to put him in the 7th spot, didn't you? LMAO

Well, I respect what the horse has done this Spring -- but I'm not a believer that he's a contender for the top spots.

So, yes

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well, I respect what the horse has done this Spring -- but I'm not a believer that he's a contender for the top spots.

So, yes

Curlin is an automatic toss for me. I'll let him beat me... I'm not impressed.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Curlin is an automatic toss for me. I'll let him beat me... I'm not impressed.

Your not impressed with a horse that has 3 wins in 3 starts and 2 runaway stakes victories, one of those in a $1,000,000 race?

hmmm.

I could agree with you if you said "I dont think he has the foundation for this race". But I can't agree with "I'm not impressed"

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Your not impressed with a horse that has 3 wins in 3 starts and 2 runaway stakes victories, one of those in a $1,000,000 race?

hmmm.

I could agree with you if you said "I dont think he has the foundation for this race". But I can't agree with "I'm not impressed"

Looks can be deceiving. You just like him because you think he's the second coming of Smarty Jones.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Looks can be deceiving. You just like him because you think he's the second coming of Smarty Jones.

lets not bring Smarty into this..

What have other horses this year done that "looks" better than Curlin. I cant think of any this year, except for possibly the battle of the tampa bay derby.

The only other time any of the other entrants have "looked" better was when they were two, and SS won the BCJuvi.


So I guess I am saying.. IMHO.. the only horse in the race that has "looked" better than Curlin is Street Sense.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

lets not bring Smarty into this..

What have other horses this year done that "looks" better than Curlin. I cant think of any this year, except for possibly the battle of the tampa bay derby.

The only other time any of the other entrants have "looked" better was when they were two, and SS won the BCJuvi.


So I guess I am saying.. IMHO.. the only horse in the race that has "looked" better than Curlin is Street Sense.

And what I'm saying is that I'm not impressed with 'looks' for a derby contender. I want a hard knocking horse that's been in a real field and had to fight out a win. To me, that's more impressive for a derby contender... JMO. Like I said, if he beats me, I'll eat crow. I did that with Smarty Jones and I'll do that again if Curlin hits the board.

[jpops757]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Curlin is an automatic toss for me. I'll let him beat me... I'm not impressed.

Not impressed! I can understand if you toss him for being short or lack of preperation but if any horse has been impressive its Curlin. It might be one of them things . Doing the right thing for all the wrong reasons.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by jpops757

Not impressed! I can understand if you toss him for being short or lack of preperation but if any horse has been impressive its Curlin. It might be one of them things . Doing the right thing for all the wrong reasons.

I'm not impressed with him to win the Derby... Was he visually impressive? Yes. Visually impressive doesn't always equal a Derby winner.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well, I respect what the horse has done this Spring -- but I'm not a believer that he's a contender for the top spots.

So, yes

That and your signature says you think he will finish 7th, so it seems appropriate that you include him in the 7 slot in your top 7.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

That and your signature says you think he will finish 7th, so it seems appropriate that you include him in the 7 slot in your top 7.

Well, naturally. I want to be as prophetic as possible at all times.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Curlin is an automatic toss for me. I'll let him beat me... I'm not impressed.

I normally would agree, but he's just looked so good all three times he's raced. He doesn't seem to have any bad habits, he rates like an old pro -- he's got everything I could want in a horse who might break all sorts of Derby angles with a win.

I could see him easily running well out of the money given the other factors the race brings to young, inexperienced horses -- but so far, he's given me no reason to doubt his natural ability and that may very well me enough. I just think he's one of those who just might be that good.

But if there's anything late resembling a dogfight, I'd take Sense and Saturday over him -- Sense for obvious reasons and while Saturday keeps coming up on the wrong end of photos, he's going to get one to go his way one of these days.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well, naturally. I want to be as prophetic as possible at all times.



I normally would agree, but he's just looked so good all three times he's raced. He doesn't seem to have any bad habits, he rates like an old pro -- he's got everything I could want in a horse who might break all sorts of Derby angles with a win.

I could see him easily running well out of the money given the other factors the race brings to young, inexperienced horses -- but so far, he's given me no reason to doubt his natural ability and that may very well me enough. I just think he's one of those who just might be that good.

But if there's anything late resembling a dogfight, I'd take Sense and Saturday over him -- Sense for obvious reasons and while Saturday keeps coming up on the wrong end of photos, he's going to get one to go his way one of these days.

I think that photo that AGS will finally win will be in the Peter Pan stakes at Belmont, not the KDerby.

[SniperSB23]

Street Sense
Any Given Saturday
Nobiz Like Shobiz
Curlin
Great Hunter
Scat Daddy
Circular Quay