grab some sack..a bettors opinion

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Hooves,

We see alot of great picks out of you. Tell me, do you make good money playing the ponies? Do you do it for a living? What would you say your ROI is? I know you're far better than me at this sport.

Spyder

ive hightend my income for along time..but this is not about me..steve , andy ect could do this and do for a living..i just want recreational betters .to back the best play of the day for them..and reap the benifits of getting it right..

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

that race or the race you like should be tied in ..in all plays max your advantage..id say with 1000 buck is high for the rec player..

300 win
200 ect key x 2 ,,,,1 key with 3/4. =.400

thats 700 in
tri key 50 buck key 1 over 3/4 100 bucks
pick 3 and 4 15 or 20 x if the light shines on you this day be ready to soak it in...

[golfer]

I just chose $1000 because it's an even number, and once again this is the entire day's bankroll.. so let me get this straight...are you saying that one should use his entire bankroll for the day on this one race? Or does it come out to approx $800 or $900?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

im saying that you should

a. pound your best play of the day
b tie that horse in exotics
c be smart if this is your best play of the day why not take full advantage of it..no matter what the race is..the other bets are action bets..real players that do this for a living dont make action bets..they may wait in the wings till they get what they think is a play..then like sharks to blood they destroy that horse ..in the three 4 and exotics..max ing out the advantage..

[golfer]

This is excellent advice, and as your thread title indicates, it does take "Balls" to do it. But since my wagering is far worse than my handicapping, I think I'll give it a try

[jman5581]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

im saying that your should

a. pound your best play of the day
b tie that horse in exotics
c be smart if this is your best play of the day why not take full advantage of it..no matter what the race is..the other bets are action bets..real players that do this for a living dont make action bets..they may wait in the wings till they get what they think is a play..then like sharks to blood they destroy that horse ..in the three 4 and exotics..max ing out the advantage..

so, hooves, in the p3's and 4's you just mean to single your best play....and spread out on the other races. I tend to get caught up trying to catch prices in multi race wagers, even when I really like a horse that I could single and be fairly comfortable with.

[jman5581]

I got a bad habit of betting for action, I need to learn how to sit on it....sometimes hooves' theory doesn't necessarily cross my mind until I need a "get out." Has worked quite a few times.

[skippy3481]

Excellent advice hooves. it doesnt matter if your playing for a 100 or a 1000. If its your best bet of the day, the greatest portion of your bankroll should be on it.

[mclem10011]

I can't really argue with any of that, if you got the funds go for it! Nothing wrong with having a strong opinion on a particular race or horse, and making as many plays as you can afford around that.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

that race or the race you like should be tied in ..in all plays max your advantage..id say with 1000 buck is high for the rec player..

300 win
200 ect key x 2 ,,,,1 key with 3/4. =.400

thats 700 in
tri key 50 buck key 1 over 3/4 100 bucks
pick 3 and 4 15 or 20 x if the light shines on you this day be ready to soak it in...

One of the things I like about hooves's advice here is that he is advocating more than just putting the majority of your money on your play of the day (although obviously he is advocating that as well). He is also saying that if you really like a horse you should play him multiple ways. You should (depending on the card and the odds) single him in pick3s and pick4s, you should key him in exotics, AND you should bet the horse to win. How many times does it happen where your play-of-the-day goes off at 3/1, wins, and you didn't have a straight win bet on him at all because you only had him in the pick3 and keyed in a trifecta? Then the other horses screw it up for you, and you think, "Damn, why didn't I also bet that horse to win?"
This is good advice, I think. Not only should you maximize the dollar amounts you play on a horse, but you should also maximize your chances of winning if your key horse does what you think he will do.