A-rod.....

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I have a limited experience with HGH back in the 80's...and I feel comfortable calling it a quasi-placebo, minimal effect on the procedures we were involved in Hospital programs.

Did you study athletes with the high levels that athletes are now taking? I mean if you give joe the jeweler a lot of hgh he still isn't gunna be looking like an athlete would.This HGH is in all of us,but we lose it.So,if you just adjust the level back to the level one had in their teens,then you would be trying to have the body you had back then.I don't think athletes are trying to do this.They are using way more than a therapeutic amount.Look at Sean MACHEEL (GOLFER) who was out of energy,and was found to have low testosterone levels.The Man has come to life when putting that testosterone cream on.Saved his career.If athletes just used enough hgh to get to a level they had in their teens etc,then this wouldn't be a huge deal.I don't think this is gunna be an issue that much longer,because they will move on to something that is new,and more powerful.

[timmgirvan]

Good for Micheel! Anyone over 30 should have their testosterone checked...low levels inhibit sex drive, increase belly fat, osteoporosis! I would like to know what any athlete is thinking when messing with HGH. What proof do they have that they'll gain anything by using the stuff?

[byalip]

The whole set up of that game was bee-yoo--tee-ful.

Just to see ARod and the Yanks wipe those smirks off their faces when Okajima smoked 3 in a row after first short pitch.....worth a million.

ARod was so arrogant at that point--assuming he got a walk--and to see him get a weak little flare....worth 2 million

Watching Torre turn his usual shade of gray when disgusted.....priceless.

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomi...er-should-you/

Interesting piece

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomi...er-should-you/

Interesting piece

"While studies are sparse due to ethical limits, what studies have been done show that while growth hormone may promote muscle growth that it does not increase strength."

O.K.,SO THEY ARE ADMITTING THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD STUDIES OF LARGE DOSE HGH ON ATHLETES.Let's assume it only does what most everybody admits it does.........chew up fat,and increase muscle definition. WTF is the 1st thing any cow losing weight will say when they start losing fat? ........."I FEEL GREAT".................LOL,you don't think that these guys feel more confident about themselves when they have "the look" they want? Confidence is strength.One way or the other this stuff produces strength(whether it be through muscle tissue,or brain tissue....... either way.)