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Old 04-18-2007, 10:03 AM
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Not that my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things, but I have been following Storm in May’s progress since he ran in the Tropical Derby on January 1, and I think has as good a shot as any of the horses. He has run four more races since then, and only tanked once in all five (the Hutchenson). He hit the board on the other four races he ran this year. And if he runs, he would be the token gray, which would make me happy. Besides, it really doesn’t matter who wins, it is an honor to be nominated.
Of course I love the horse, but I just think he's too slow to legitimately compete for the top spots. I love that he's consistent though like you noted the Hutcheson was his only tankjob, and that was with a bit of an excuse on the turn as well.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:23 AM
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Of course I love the horse, but I just think he's too slow to legitimately compete for the top spots. I love that he's consistent though like you noted the Hutcheson was his only tankjob, and that was with a bit of an excuse on the turn as well.
As for me, I'm a Derby post position believer. The over-all percentages of the last 132 Derbys are high for post positions 1 through 5, 8 and 10. I'll be pondering my exotics after the post position draw. Or, I might just do what I did for Derby 131, and bet two bucks across the board on all. Giacomo and Closing Argument helped me win back all my money and then some. All in all, it should be a fun day at Trackside Arlington.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:36 AM
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As for me, I'm a Derby post position believer. The over-all percentages of the last 132 Derbys are high for post positions 1 through 5, 8 and 10. I'll be pondering my exotics after the post position draw. Or, I might just do what I did for Derby 131, and bet two bucks across the board on all. Giacomo and Closing Argument helped me win back all my money and then some. All in all, it should be a fun day at Trackside Arlington.
Have you been up there on derby day? Its a madhouse and you have all these clueless people wandering around chattering and cluttering up the teller windows and tote machines while they take 20 minutes each to make their wagers.
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:03 AM
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Have you been up there on derby day? Its a madhouse and you have all these clueless people wandering around chattering and cluttering up the teller windows and tote machines while they take 20 minutes each to make their wagers.
Yes, I have been there on Derby Day, for 131, although I was in the banquet room across the hall, which was just as much of a madhouse. But after going to CD last year for 132, I prefer the madhouse of Trackside. This year, I'm in the restaurant part of Trackside, and usually get there at opening, make all my bets right away (former accountant, does spreadsheets), and then sit with a nice cup or two of coffee until noon, when the alcohol begins. I decide how I am going to bet long before I even get there.
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:09 AM
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Yes, I have been there on Derby Day, for 131, although I was in the banquet room across the hall, which was just as much of a madhouse. But after going to CD last year for 132, I prefer the madhouse of Trackside. This year, I'm in the restaurant part of Trackside, and usually get there at opening, make all my bets right away (former accountant, does spreadsheets), and then sit with a nice cup or two of coffee until noon, when the alcohol begins. I decide how I am going to bet long before I even get there.
Well it sounds like you've got a good system that works. I definitely would advise against anyone waiting to handicap the derby day card until they're at the track!

Used to go up there quite a bit, I live real close, but not very often anymore.
I prefer playing at home. Fewer distractions and no smoke.
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:23 AM
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Well it sounds like you've got a good system that works. I definitely would advise against anyone waiting to handicap the derby day card until they're at the track!

Used to go up there quite a bit, I live real close, but not very often anymore.
I prefer playing at home. Fewer distractions and no smoke.
I prefer Trackside to Lucky Magees at Golf Mill, which reeks of cigar smoke, and feels like a warehouse. I prefer the ambience of Trackside.

When I go to for a "Saturday at the races", which isn't often anymore (lack of funds), I usually do my final handicapping from Equibase downloads on the Thursday and Friday evenings before. For the Derby, I chart the results of all races starting on January 1, and follow the races on Youbet. I don't bet online, can't afford it, but it's fun to watch the races at home, with the sounds of laundry washing in the distance. Anyway, by the time Derby week rolls around, I have already decided how I am going to bet, and I just wait to hear post positions. For the most part when I lose, my loss percentage is between 20 and 25% for the whole day. I'm still working off a really good credit voucher I ended up with on Breeder's Cup Day.

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Old 04-19-2007, 06:11 AM
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Yes, I have been there on Derby Day, for 131, although I was in the banquet room across the hall, which was just as much of a madhouse. But after going to CD last year for 132, I prefer the madhouse of Trackside. This year, I'm in the restaurant part of Trackside, and usually get there at opening, make all my bets right away (former accountant, does spreadsheets), and then sit with a nice cup or two of coffee until noon, when the alcohol begins. I decide how I am going to bet long before I even get there.
They don't serve alcohol til after noon? Philistines.

I can already tell you Storm in May will be my mom's horse since he's grey. My dad's got an interesting method to pick horses at home. He only ever watches the TC races and picks the winner in the post parade 90% of the time. The other time he'll end up picking an 8th placer or something but rarely does he miss eyeballing the horse that looks the best to him and ending up with the Derby winner. Pity the man doesn't gamble. It's like that Deal or No Deal model with an IQ of 158 or something, kind of strange she doesn't use her Mensa-ness for some higher purpose. I should market him as a wagering gimmick on eBay. You can take him with you to a paddock and it'll be like money in the Paypal account.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:31 AM
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They don't serve alcohol til after noon? Philistines.

I can already tell you Storm in May will be my mom's horse since he's grey. My dad's got an interesting method to pick horses at home. He only ever watches the TC races and picks the winner in the post parade 90% of the time. The other time he'll end up picking an 8th placer or something but rarely does he miss eyeballing the horse that looks the best to him and ending up with the Derby winner. Pity the man doesn't gamble. It's like that Deal or No Deal model with an IQ of 158 or something, kind of strange she doesn't use her Mensa-ness for some higher purpose. I should market him as a wagering gimmick on eBay. You can take him with you to a paddock and it'll be like money in the Paypal account.
Oh, they serve alcohol before noon. I need coffee first, beats me why. Old age, I guess
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:37 AM
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Oh, they serve alcohol before noon. I need coffee first, beats me why. Old age, I guess
A mix of both sets the day up perfectly
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