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Old 06-30-2006, 09:22 AM
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In my opinion, the only thing that really factored in this judgement was the fact that he wins a lot of the races at EvD and his name is not Bourgeious, Arceneaux, Desormeaux, Hebert, Breaux or Melancon...catch my drift?....Cajuns don't like the big outfits coming in and taking there slots-supplemented money and they take care of there own to make sure it happens as least as possible..
1. This quote... interesting
2. Calling for national oversight ... unrealistic.
3. Calling the other poster the "moron of the day" .... lamentable

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3. If he's the "moron of the day," what does that make you (other than, of course, the self-styled purveyor of the moron of the day award)? There are lots of people who share his view, right or wrong. And since he chooses to race so widely, there's no way he can know what's going on everwhere. I'll say that if he's going to play the game, he's subject to it's rules. Whether the punishment fits his offense is a matter for appeal.

2. National oversight. Yeah, sure it sounds good, but you should know it will never happen. Do you really think that the 30 or so states with a horse racing industry and their own racing commissions are going to agree to cede that authority? Politics in Louisiana are not so very different than they are in other states, certainly not when it comes to inviting federal legislation that would supercede State authority. Banking and insurance are two good examples. While there is federal regulation to a some extent, these huge industries are, for the most part, state regulated. If your zeal for national standards to apply to suspension guideline for violating state racing medication rules is genuine, I'd suggest you focus on getting the industry's national trade association to develop "model" guidelines for states to follow.

1. Your comment regarding the "Cajuns" in Louisiana. It's awful. And worse, it's lamentable. It smacks of the kind of "my people came over on the Mayflower and yours didn't" latent and very unsubtle attitude that has little use other than, of course, to make an unsubtle point. I'm a modest CDI, Inc. shareholder and it's unfortunate that one of CDI's on-air staff would make this sort of remark. If CDI were to promote you and transfer you to Louisiana and you found yourself in the position of needing to interview one of these "Cajuns" you mentioned would you be able to do so objectively? I'm sure many of them have fathers and sons and mothers and daughters who have fought and died to give you the right to your unsubtle and unseemly comments.

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Old 06-30-2006, 09:51 AM
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1. Your comment regarding the "Cajuns" in Louisiana. It's awful. And worse, it's lamentable. It smacks of the kind of "my people came over on the Mayflower and yours didn't" latent and very unsubtle attitude that has little use other than, of course, to make an unsubtle point. I'm a modest CDI, Inc. shareholder and it's unfortunate that one of CDI's on-air staff would make this sort of remark. If CDI were to promote you and transfer you to Louisiana and you found yourself in the position of needing to interview one of these "Cajuns" you mentioned would you be able to do so objectively? I'm sure many of them have fathers and sons and mothers and daughters who have fought and died to give you the right to your unsubtle and unseemly comments.

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ummm isn't Joel from Loiusiana?
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Old 06-30-2006, 09:53 AM
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ummm isn't Joel from Loiusiana?
Yep, he is. That is why what he says is true. He knows what goes on down there. I firmly believe that...so when it comes to Louisiana racing, I will listen to him. He is actually very involved with LA racing, but I'll let him to be the one that says the specifics because I don't want to reveal any information about him that he may not want revealed.

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Old 06-30-2006, 09:58 AM
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Old 06-30-2006, 02:36 PM
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ummm isn't Joel from Loiusiana?
Of course I am and there is no bigger proponent of Louisiana racing in the world than me...hell, I am invested through the roof in that program and passionately love it and am seriously involved with the big players in it.

This guy clearly doesn't do his homework...for starters Mr. stockholder, I am no longer employed full time by CDI, and if I was, I never made an opinion in relation to CDI nor did I represent CDI in any opinion.

And again, I'm a Louisianian...my father and I are VERY invested in the racing program there and no all of the big players...as a matter of fact, my father is also a LARGE stockholder in CDI and is also a huge invester in the Louisiana racing program and even he doesn't disagree with my position because he lives there and understands Louisiana politics.

...just because you don't believe with the way the Louisiana government handles there business - as well as many shady things on the racetracks with well-documented scandles that have been witnessed over the past 20 years in Louisiana racing - doesn't mean that you hate Lousiana people and Louisiana racing....as a matter of fact, you can tell I love Louisiana racing because I'm one of the people that would love to see it ridded of its derailing bad politics and shady players...the same ones that could possible be involved in this bogus suspension.
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Old 06-30-2006, 03:19 PM
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Of course I am and there is no bigger proponent of Louisiana racing in the world than me...hell, I am invested through the roof in that program and passionately love it and am seriously involved with the big players in it.

This guy clearly doesn't do his homework...for starters Mr. stockholder, I am no longer employed full time by CDI, and if I was, I never made an opinion in relation to CDI nor did I represent CDI in any opinion.

And again, I'm a Louisianian...my father and I are VERY invested in the racing program there and no all of the big players...as a matter of fact, my father is also a LARGE stockholder in CDI and is also a huge invester in the Louisiana racing program and even he doesn't disagree with my position because he lives there and understands Louisiana politics.

...just because you don't believe with the way the Louisiana government handles there business - as well as many shady things on the racetracks with well-documented scandles that have been witnessed over the past 20 years in Louisiana racing - doesn't mean that you hate Lousiana people and Louisiana racing....as a matter of fact, you can tell I love Louisiana racing because I'm one of the people that would love to see it ridded of its derailing bad politics and shady players...the same ones that could possible be involved in this bogus suspension.
Well,
I'm sure your Dad is a far HUGER investor than I am. You got me there. I still find offensive your reference to Cajuns in what I consider a deragtory manner. You probably don't agree. Well, that's all right with me. The fact you may own a few horses and your father may own a few more does not make you an expert on State politics nor does it make your reference to another person here who shared an opinion different than yours as a moron any more tasteful. I'll let it go there, wish you well, but will offer some unsolicited advice ... upgrade the sportcoat you wear on Churchill TV. Good luck.

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Old 06-30-2006, 04:31 PM
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Well,
I'm sure your Dad is a far HUGER investor than I am. You got me there. I still find offensive your reference to Cajuns in what I consider a deragtory manner. You probably don't agree. Well, that's all right with me. The fact you may own a few horses and your father may own a few more does not make you an expert on State politics nor does it make your reference to another person here who shared an opinion different than yours as a moron any more tasteful. I'll let it go there, wish you well, but will offer some unsolicited advice ... upgrade the sportcoat you wear on Churchill TV. Good luck.

regards,
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I fell as though I do understand Louisiana politics in how it relates to the horse racing industry...if I did not feel I was qualified to chime in than I would not have...if the topic of discussion was Boom Town casino in Shreveport having it's liscense pulled for allowing minors to gamble - then I would NOT have chimed in with an opinion....this is a chat board and when a thread comes up that I have a strong, educated opinion on then I respond with it...

As for the 'moron' comment, it was a pretty harsh statement by me - I agree, but ironically the reason that I made that comment is because I felt the poster was very uninformed as proved by the contents of his statements (kind of like you think I am) and so I lashed out....my bad....I do like Steve Asmussen a lot, but I also can say that I am unbiased in the fact that NOBODY deserved the punishment that he was dished out...just my opinion and I would have probably defended anybody against that judgement - not just Steve.

..as for the suit comment, you are very correct....look at it my way though...when you are doing multiple video shooting a week, you learn to just leave your 'cheapest' suit jackets in the office to slip on at any time....if you noticed, it was abouyt the same jacket everytime and I wasn't going to leave a good suit coat in my office collecting dust on a cheap coat rack....make sense?...good observation though
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Old 06-30-2006, 08:47 PM
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I fell as though I do understand Louisiana politics in how it relates to the horse racing industry...if I did not feel I was qualified to chime in than I would not have...if the topic of discussion was Boom Town casino in Shreveport having it's liscense pulled for allowing minors to gamble - then I would NOT have chimed in with an opinion....this is a chat board and when a thread comes up that I have a strong, educated opinion on then I respond with it...

As for the 'moron' comment, it was a pretty harsh statement by me - I agree, but ironically the reason that I made that comment is because I felt the poster was very uninformed as proved by the contents of his statements (kind of like you think I am) and so I lashed out....my bad....I do like Steve Asmussen a lot,

Honey, it sounds like I am more informed than you are. I happen to have worked the backside. I know what goes on more than you folks "in the office". When I have a strong, educated opinion on someone, I respond to it. You don't know who I am, or what I have done in the business, so you calling me a moron makes you out to look like the real moron. Maybe you should "educate" yourself about some of the posters before you go around calling them names because of an opinion they have. FYI, I have seen first hand the **** that goes on on the backside. Guess what? This isn't the first bad test Asmussen has received. Do you know how many bad test that get "hushed" and only fines are given?? He had this coming to him for a long time. It's time the man ponies up and pays.
And BTW, it's ma'am.
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Old 06-30-2006, 09:15 PM
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Honey, it sounds like I am more informed than you are. I happen to have worked the backside. I know what goes on more than you folks "in the office". When I have a strong, educated opinion on someone, I respond to it. You don't know who I am, or what I have done in the business, so you calling me a moron makes you out to look like the real moron. Maybe you should "educate" yourself about some of the posters before you go around calling them names because of an opinion they have. FYI, I have seen first hand the **** that goes on on the backside. Guess what? This isn't the first bad test Asmussen has received. Do you know how many bad test that get "hushed" and only fines are given?? He had this coming to him for a long time. It's time the man ponies up and pays.
And BTW, it's ma'am.
A) I never remembered refferring to you as a 'man'..

B) If you think that I am a stranger to the backside then you are sorely mistaken...I've seen it all too...I can rub and walk a horse as good as the next man, I just chose to capitalize on my education and choose a career path on the frontside of the track. Does that make me a suit and tie-wearing idiot that has never laid a hand on a horse?...ahh, NO...I own several that I can handle up and down and that allows me an advantage as an owner because trainers cannot lie to me about a horse's condition because I can review them myself....When I learned the backside it was strictly to learn how to manage backside employees from an owners standpoint and it has worked to my advantage beautifully...

I apologize for calling you a moron, ma'am...that was uncalled for...I know Steve as well as anybody on here and I do not think he is a huge cheaper or I probably wouldn't have the respect for him that I have....

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Old 06-30-2006, 09:40 PM
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Honey, it sounds like I am more informed than you are. I happen to have worked the backside. I know what goes on more than you folks "in the office". When I have a strong, educated opinion on someone, I respond to it. You don't know who I am, or what I have done in the business, so you calling me a moron makes you out to look like the real moron. Maybe you should "educate" yourself about some of the posters before you go around calling them names because of an opinion they have. FYI, I have seen first hand the **** that goes on on the backside. Guess what? This isn't the first bad test Asmussen has received. Do you know how many bad test that get "hushed" and only fines are given?? He had this coming to him for a long time. It's time the man ponies up and pays.
And BTW, it's ma'am.
You worked on the real-live backside??? Wow...that is awesome. Fill us all in please.
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Old 06-30-2006, 09:07 PM
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Well,
I'm sure your Dad is a far HUGER investor than I am. You got me there. I still find offensive your reference to Cajuns in what I consider a deragtory manner. You probably don't agree. Well, that's all right with me. The fact you may own a few horses and your father may own a few more does not make you an expert on State politics nor does it make your reference to another person here who shared an opinion different than yours as a moron any more tasteful. I'll let it go there, wish you well, but will offer some unsolicited advice ... upgrade the sportcoat you wear on Churchill TV. Good luck.

regards,
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The size of the investor really doesn't matter...its all relative..the point is that I am not taking CDI's position when I speak on my own behalf in a small forum like this one - and about a subject I feel qualified to talk about. Again, if I didn't know the contents of the subject then I would have refrained from chiming in with a contraversial comment...I wish more than anyone in this world that Louisiana was a fair state...history clearly says that it is not the case....it is very unfortunate because that is one of the things that pulls down a beautiful state that has many positive things to offer....damn shame..
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