Bluegrass

[tiznowthegreat]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Zanjero looked horrible on the rail... looked like he was running through water or something. I realize he finished 3rd, but I'm concerned about him getting 10 panels now... he looked really tired.

The rail has been an awful place to be this meet though. I came away somewhat impressed with Zanjero considering the rail trip.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by tiznowthegreat

The rail has been an awful place to be this meet though. I came away somewhat impressed with Zanjero considering the rail trip.

Thanks for the info... I was a bit concerned about how tired he looked. I need to rewatch this race...

[Merlinsky]

Borel said he was trying to keep Street Sense in the path he'd been comfortable in but did that affect momentum in any way? I mean he was pushing at the end but still... If Dominican had had to go a little wider it could've affected the head bob right?

[videogirl10]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Borel said he was trying to keep Street Sense in the path he'd been comfortable in but did that affect momentum in any way? I mean he was pushing at the end but still... If Dominican had had to go a little wider it could've affected the head bob right?

i think that was edgar who said that... talking about teufulsburg (sp?) when asked about his horse bearing out. i think borel was talking about ss lunging in on great hunter a couple times. and that may have contributed to the loss.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by videogirl10

i think that was edgar who said that... talking about teufulsburg (sp?) when asked about his horse bearing out. i think borel was talking about ss lunging in on great hunter a couple times. and that may have contributed to the loss.

I dunno I heard it on tv. I could've sworn Jerry said Borel...I didn't hear the interviews with the jocks. Maybe they misquoted or I misheard. I had a black snake get in through the attic before the race so I was half-thinking about that.

One thing I know I heard was yet another person (this time on Sportscenter) trying to say Too-flesberg instead of Toy-flesberg. It's been awhile since I took German but I'm pretty sure it's the latter. The commentators used to say it the other way and now they do it they way I figure it is.

[golfer]

ESPN.com has the replay of the stretch run up, I just watched it again, and saw what I originally thought I had seen. Tuefelsberg all over the friggin race track, causing Great Hunter to swerve and bump Street Sense, which is what cost him the race. Without Tuefelsberg's antics, Dominican does not win this race, in my opinion.

[Round Pen]

Interesting race to say the least How in the world was there atleast not a general inquiry into the stretch run. After watching the head on the stewards must have been watching the golf channel or something during the race.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

I dunno I heard it on tv. I could've sworn Jerry said Borel...I didn't hear the interviews with the jocks. Maybe they misquoted or I misheard. I had a black snake get in through the attic before the race so I was half-thinking about that.

One thing I know I heard was yet another person (this time on Sportscenter) trying to say Too-flesberg instead of Toy-flesberg. It's been awhile since I took German but I'm pretty sure it's the latter. The commentators used to say it the other way and now they do it they way I figure it is.

it's toy, and it was prado who said about keeping his horse on a good path, not borel.

shame great hunter got cut off, twice. but the first did the damage, jock just saved him after that. lost the battle, will he win the war??

[tiznowthegreat]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Thanks for the info... I was a bit concerned about how tired he looked. I need to rewatch this race...

And also watch the races from the rest of the meet to see how ridiculous the rail has been. Almost every winner is coming from farther back and in the middle of the track. This race actually made me go from not considering Zanjero at all to almost definitely at least including him on my tickets.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by tiznowthegreat

And also watch the races from the rest of the meet to see how ridiculous the rail has been. Almost every winner is coming from farther back and in the middle of the track. This race actually made me go from not considering Zanjero at all to almost definitely at least including him on my tickets.

The 10th race winner came right up the rail. It feels to me like the situation is a bit of a self-fulfulling prophesy as everyone seems to be staying outside.

Regardless, this edition of the Blue Grass, and probably everyone from now on, offers absolutely nothing predictive.

[tiznowthegreat]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The 10th race winner came right up the rail. It feels to me like the situation is a bit of a self-fulfulling prophesy as everyone seems to be staying outside.

Regardless, this edition of the Blue Grass, and probably everyone from now on, offers absolutely nothing predictive.

There is no doubt that if a horse is good enough they can win on the rail. But for a week and a half now I've heard jockeys and trainers repeatedly say that the rail is not the place to be. Silent Name won on the lead but if you've been watching the meet, the lead is not the place of preference. Horses are winning on the inside and on the lead, but not as much as they should be. I've had a great meet playing these angles.

[todko]

Steet Sense is a toss. Shot from the Tampa Bay effort. Horse had the long layoff due to physical issues. Even Carl said he wasn't doing well when they went to Florida. Comes back after layoff since November and grits it out in record time versus AGS.

Now people believe he will win at 10f in 3 weeks time. He was trying to win at Keeneland and if Dominican didn't have traffic issues and they went another furlong Dominican wins by 10.

[sumitas]

You do need to wonder if Street Sense can peak for the KD. Curlin will be the fav in the Derby.

Originally Posted by todko

Steet Sense is a toss. Shot from the Tampa Bay effort. Horse had the long layoff due to physical issues. Even Carl said he wasn't doing well when they went to Florida. Comes back after layoff since November and grits it out in record time versus AGS.

Now people believe he will win at 10f in 3 weeks time. He was trying to win at Keeneland and if Dominican didn't have traffic issues and they went another furlong Dominican wins by 10.

I agree. In fact, I've got Dominican winning the triple crown. He will be Bernardini x 10.

[todko]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

My first laugh of the day, thanks. Dominican had traffic issues? Where exactly? But the statement that takes the cake is that he wins by 10 if they went another furlong. How exactly can you determine this?

He didn't even get motoring until the last 1/16th. Was behind Street Sense and went around him with no difficulty. Watch the horses running out after.

Street Sense staggered off slow fractions. That's a dud on the first Saturday in May.

[Linny]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Regardless, this edition of the Blue Grass, and probably everyone from now on, offers absolutely nothing predictive.

I'm not sure if I agree or disagree here but IMO the last 5-10 runnings of the Bluegrass have been far frompredictive. Millenium Wind and Sinister Minister looked like HOY candidates over the "old" Keeneland.