Comely - G2

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't agree, or see anything special about this horse, but good luck. Tomorrow's field is nothing special on paper...but the Oaks? Maybe the Monmouth Oaks.

Who is really scary in the Oaks behind Rags? High Heels is a solid second choice then you are probably looking at the same horses that ran in the Bonnie Miss. If I thought this years Kentucky Oaks was coming up any stronger than most years Monmouth Oaks does then I wouldn't consider her an Oaks horse. This year it is a crapshoot.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Who is really scary in the Oaks behind Rags? High Heels is a solid second choice then you are probably looking at the same horses that ran in the Bonnie Miss. If I thought this years Kentucky Oaks was coming up any stronger than most years Monmouth Oaks does then I wouldn't consider her an Oaks horse. This year it is a crapshoot.

I think this year's KY Oaks field is looking pretty good.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Who is really scary in the Oaks behind Rags? High Heels is a solid second choice then you are probably looking at the same horses that ran in the Bonnie Miss. If I thought this years Kentucky Oaks was coming up any stronger than most years Monmouth Oaks does then I wouldn't consider her an Oaks horse. This year it is a crapshoot.

Because the Oaks field isn't " scary ", though you keep saying " besides Rags to Riches " as though her presense isn't VERY important, doesn't mean a horse like Fee Fi Fo Fum belongs. There are quite a few fillies well ahead of Fee Fi Fo Fum....whether or not they are " scary ". It's a moot ( by the way I love it when people spell this " mute " ) point, as she won't be in the Oaks, but she is a legitimate 100-1 in the Oaks right now and most likely higher.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Because the Oaks field isn't " scary ", though you keep saying " besides Rags to Riches " as though her presense isn't VERY important, doesn't mean a horse like Fee Fi Fo Fum belongs. There are quite a few fillies well ahead of Fee Fi Fo Fum....whether or not they are " scary ". It's a moot ( by the way I love it when people spell this " mute " ) point, as she won't be in the Oaks, but she is a legitimate 100-1 in the Oaks right now and most likely higher.

Even if she wins the G2 Comely? You don't think she'd even belong in the field?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Even if she wins the G2 Comely? You don't think she'd even belong in the field?

It depends. I don't care that it's a Grade 2, or that it's called the Comely, only what kind of performances are given. Based on the pps of the field, and her prior races, I will be surprised if, should she win, it is an even mildly noteworthy effort. Right now this is a field of " maybes ", and a few never will bes, and personally I will be surprised if, based on what I have seen, Fee Fi Fo Fum delivers anything close to a knockout performance.

If I hadn't met you I would be convinced you were Jason Blewitt the way you love Jimmy Jerkens horses.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It depends. I don't care that it's a Grade 2, or that it's called the Comely, only what kind of performances are given. Based on the pps of the field, and her prior races, I will be surprised if, should she win, it is an even mildly noteworthy effort. Right now this is a field of " maybes ", and a few never will bes, and personally I will be surprised if, based on what I have seen, Fee Fi Fo Fum delivers anything close to a knockout performance.

If I hadn't met you I would be convinced you were Jason Blewitt the way you love Jimmy Jerkens horses.

Well we'll have Panty Raid coming in off a slow allowance win on the poly and probably drawing a decent amount of money so I can't really see how the winner of the Comely would be that out of place.

I swear I liked her before I saw she was trained by Jerkens. I actually was a big fan of Sir Greeley and Corinthian for almost a year before I realized they were both trained by him.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Well we'll have Panty Raid coming in off a slow allowance win on the poly and probably drawing a decent amount of money so I can't really see how the winner of the Comely would be that out of place.

I swear I liked her before I saw she was trained by Jerkens. I actually was a big fan of Sir Greeley and Corinthian for almost a year before I realized they were both trained by him.

Panty Raid's Turfway race was reasonably fast. Not that I think she's much either...but she's ahead of Fee Fi Fo Fum.

Hey, I'm happy about this discussion, as I am now WAY more interested in the Comely.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Panty Raid's Turfway race was reasonably fast. Not that I think she's much either...but she's ahead of Fee Fi Fo Fum.

Hey, I'm happy about this discussion, as I am now WAY more interested in the Comely.

Me too but now I REALLY wish it was at a mile and an eighth around two turns.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Well we'll have Panty Raid coming in off a slow allowance win on the poly and probably drawing a decent amount of money so I can't really see how the winner of the Comely would be that out of place.

I swear I liked her before I saw she was trained by Jerkens. I actually was a big fan of Sir Greeley and Corinthian for almost a year before I realized they were both trained by him.

The real root of his problem as you see BTW, is the presence of Mr. Greeley and/or Buckpasser...he loses his mind.

[golfer]

For whomever may be interested, the Comely is the Thorograph Race of the Week. Going by the numbers, there are a few things that stand out, the biggest of which is that Fee Fi Fo Fum, while very eligible to improve, is the slowest horse in the field coming into this. At 7-2 ML, she's one to take a stand against. Boca Grande, who is also likely to improve 2nd off the layoff, comes in no faster than many, and is giving weight, therefore should be an underlay. Pletcher's Perfect Forest is solid, and in light, is the most likely horse to run well (win? maybe!). I, like Andy, would lean against the Maryland shipper and the Contessa trio (although out of the 3, Officer in Pursuit seems to have the biggest upside). This leaves us with 2 interesting horses, both coming off poor races. Desire to Excel, the fastest horse at 2, comes off a poor showing 1st off layoff and 1st stretchout at Tampa. If you can forgive that effort, this could be the horse. Finally you have Pat Reynolds' Lost Etiquette, only 3 lifetime starts, 2 of which have been very competitive with this field. Only problem is her most recent was the worst, why? Short rest? Again, if you can forgive that effort, this one is dangerous.
Bottom line: Pletcher's Perfect Forest is the horse with the least strikes against, although not a major standout, Desire to Excel and Lost Etiquette are both dangerous.