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Old 04-04-2007, 11:17 PM
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Number #1 on the the list should be the incompetence of their horrible
stewards. They proved it again in 6th race at the Big A yesterday
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:22 PM
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I love this thinking here. Follow me for a moment. We have #1 which is to get people to the track. We will let them in for free. We want them to wager their money. Then we are going to set up problem gambler treatment program for those that were let in free and developed a problem. I love it......
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:22 PM
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I do think night racing would be huge in the right environment. If they had night racing at Arlington on Friday/Saturday, it would be packed from head to toe in the summer, it would be like the Million every weekend
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:28 PM
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I do think night racing would be huge in the right environment. If they had night racing at Arlington on Friday/Saturday, it would be packed from head to toe in the summer, it would be like the Million every weekend
For a while then it becomes ordinary. Plus the entertainment options are far greater at night than they are during the day. Putting a better product out at a more competitive price is a simple answer that can be done and would take virtually nothing to implement. But why give your customers better races with lower takeout when you can give out free passes and save all those pesky problem racehorse gamblers. Like the states Keno or video crack going off every 5 minutes 24 hours a day isn't creating 100 times more problem gamblers than the race tracks.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:32 PM
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You know New York could put lights and sounds on the horses while they run. Imagine watching the Wood and seeing Any Given Saturday in purple and red lights flashing as he is making his move while a bell is ringing everytime his feet hit the ground.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:37 PM
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I do think night racing would be huge in the right environment. If they had night racing at Arlington on Friday/Saturday, it would be packed from head to toe in the summer, it would be like the Million every weekend
I dunno what kinda neighborhood Arlington is in, but Belmont and Aqueduct, both in the sticks, aren't going to attract any more people with night racing. In fact, they might attract less since it'll keep the old people away.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:40 PM
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I dunno what kinda neighborhood Arlington is in, but Belmont and Aqueduct, both in the sticks, aren't going to attract any more people with night racing. In fact, they might attract less since it'll keep the old people away.
I never thought of the Big A to be in the sticks. Maybe you could get hit by sticks there....
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:45 PM
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I never thought of the Big A to be in the sticks. Maybe you could get hit by sticks there....
Only if you're.. Nevermind.

It's in the sticks in that it's not close to anything resembling a metropolis. Damn near all of Queens is the sticks, man.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:47 PM
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Only if you're.. Nevermind.

It's in the sticks in that it's not close to anything resembling a metropolis. Damn near all of Queens is the sticks, man.
Doesn't downtown Jamaica count?
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:50 PM
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Doesn't downtown Jamaica count?
Not really, but even so, AQU is a ways from Jamaica.
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:52 AM
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Only if you're.. Nevermind.

It's in the sticks in that it's not close to anything resembling a metropolis. Damn near all of Queens is the sticks, man.
That's the first time anyone's ever told me I'm from the sticks, leave it to a guy from Brooklyn
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:55 AM
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Only if you're.. Nevermind.

It's in the sticks in that it's not close to anything resembling a metropolis. Damn near all of Queens is the sticks, man.
The Big A and Belmont are in the Sticks? I guess the Meadowlands is too?

Come on, the sticks should be reserved for places like like Penn National or Mountaineer, where you have to drive hours to get to a metropoltian area.
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:17 PM
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The Big A and Belmont are in the Sticks? I guess the Meadowlands is too?

Come on, the sticks should be reserved for places like like Penn National or Mountaineer, where you have to drive hours to get to a metropoltian area.
Dammit, I'm talking about the boonies in relativity, people! My point is that in order for night racing to work, you're going to have to attract people from outside of Queens, and I don't know anyone whose eyes light up at the thought of journeying out to Elmont or Ozone Park.

And yes, the Meadowlands is in the middle of nowhere. If the complex weren't there, why would anyone go to East Rutherford?
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:08 AM
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I dunno what kinda neighborhood Arlington is in, but Belmont and Aqueduct, both in the sticks, aren't going to attract any more people with night racing. In fact, they might attract less since it'll keep the old people away.
It is in yuppie Chicago. Northwest Burbs. The problem with around here is that their is nothing to do outside in the summer. If Arlington were to have their Friday's at night, and continue with their 'party in the park', they would get 15,000 to 25,000 a night I bet. Their is essentially nothing to do at night close to us..
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:16 AM
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It is in yuppie Chicago. Northwest Burbs. The problem with around here is that their is nothing to do outside in the summer. If Arlington were to have their Friday's at night, and continue with their 'party in the park', they would get 15,000 to 25,000 a night I bet. Their is essentially nothing to do at night close to us..

i think hawthorne needs night racing more scav as far as tbreds go. the main thing for arlington to attract more fans is just to drop the price of admission/ concessions
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:41 AM
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i think hawthorne needs night racing more scav as far as tbreds go. the main thing for arlington to attract more fans is just to drop the price of admission/ concessions
Dude do you want to go into that neighborhood at night?
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:31 PM
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Dude do you want to go into that neighborhood at night?

lol cannon(chuck) i live about 10 min from hawthorne by car so i dont live in the best of neighborhoods. personally i think hawthorne should scrap summer harness racing and have a QH meet there
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:14 PM
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i think hawthorne needs night racing more scav as far as tbreds go. the main thing for arlington to attract more fans is just to drop the price of admission/ concessions
you mean 6-7 bucks to get in and another $9.50 for a slice of pizza and a pepsi are not good things???
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:28 PM
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you mean 6-7 bucks to get in and another $9.50 for a slice of pizza and a pepsi are not good things???

Only if it comes with an Oscar nominated movie and a 'good' slice of pizza and maybe a container of nachos

The pizza at Arlington is quite similar to plastic Little Caesars pizza, and the price of pizza will go up, because I believe the cost of that new Polytrack will be coming out of every average Joe's pocket at the food counter, as well as probably the cost of reserved seats and the cost of admission and the cost of parking closer to the facility. Would prefer to see the future additional costs we will be shelling out going to the people who work and live on site. They certainly could use it, and have certainly been deprived of better accommodations.
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:34 PM
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you mean 6-7 bucks to get in and another $9.50 for a slice of pizza and a pepsi are not good things???
beer will probaly literally be 7 bucks a pop this year, im dreading the prices inside the track after what they spent on the poly. best thing to do at arlington is either have a horsemans license or know some1 who does and go to the kitchen on the backside. the food is surprisingly good there for a track kitchen and the beer is about 5 dollars less
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