No Wood for Circular Quay

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont know about that Andy. Look how bad Secretariat ran after those too taxing efforts in the Derby and Preakness!

Cannon, are you a "Sheets" follower?
Personally I think most of their "theories" are a bunch of mularkey but the only other explanation I can come up with is CQ ran a big Sheet number in the La Derby and they're trying to avoid a "bounce". Makes no sense to me, however.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by philcski

Cannon, are you a "Sheets" follower?
Personally I think most of their "theories" are a bunch of mularkey but the only other explanation I can come up with is CQ ran a big Sheet number in the La Derby and they're trying to avoid a "bounce". Makes no sense to me, however.

Yeah, but if that's the case, why not run him now and get it out of the way? Like you said before, who cares where he finishes in a race like the Wood or Blue Grass.. TP and Tabor shouldn't.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

Cannon, are you a "Sheets" follower?
Personally I think most of their "theories" are a bunch of mularkey but the only other explanation I can come up with is CQ ran a big Sheet number in the La Derby and they're trying to avoid a "bounce". Makes no sense to me, however.

I look at TG's. A lot of what they do is great but they are not without flaw. I believe that too many guys are using them as an excuse not to run. I remember that Smarty Jones was a big sheets play against in the Derby because he was a likely bounce. If I remember right he "bounced" that day but was still an easy winner. Good horses can sustain consistent good efforts over a long period of time. But no one seemingly want to run anymore. And I blame a lot of this squarely on the owners and breeders. There was a time not so long ago that a horse that was percieved to be fragile or a bleeder would meet a cool reception at stud until he proved he could produce. It is almost not a factor what a horse accomplishes anymore except to win a graded stakes on the dirt, preferably at a mile or shorter.

[zippyneedsawin]

I read somewhere else that they're having trouble keeping weight on CQ.. a sign that something may be wrong with him.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I read somewhere else that they're having trouble keeping weight on CQ.. a sign that something may be wrong with him.

Could be ulcers.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I look at TG's. A lot of what they do is great but they are not without flaw. I believe that too many guys are using them as an excuse not to run. I remember that Smarty Jones was a big sheets play against in the Derby because he was a likely bounce. If I remember right he "bounced" that day but was still an easy winner. Good horses can sustain consistent good efforts over a long period of time. But no one seemingly want to run anymore. And I blame a lot of this squarely on the owners and breeders. There was a time not so long ago that a horse that was percieved to be fragile or a bleeder would meet a cool reception at stud until he proved he could produce. It is almost not a factor what a horse accomplishes anymore except to win a graded stakes on the dirt, preferably at a mile or shorter.

Good stuff, Chuck. I completely agree with this statement.

Figures wise I think TG does a really good job. I just can't read the damned things for long periods of time, it's like watching the chicklet screen at Keeneland...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

Good stuff, Chuck. I completely agree with this statement.

Figures wise I think TG does a really good job. I just can't read the damned things for long periods of time, it's like watching the chicklet screen at Keeneland...

It seems like they are trying harder than the other guys. Maybe I'm crazy but that's what it seems like to me.