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Old 04-02-2007, 12:41 PM
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Even if you are on Invasor, you need to know where DC is at all times. let's say DC is not suffering from a sore throat and Frankie has him rolling from off the pace. Fernando doesn't look back, figures he can beat Premium Tap any time and doesn't step on the gas. At the halfway point of the stretch (1 1/2f out) Frankie sails on by with Invasor dozing. How's Hamdan feel now?
Fernando had no idea that Discreet Cat had nothing in the tank turning for home. He doesn't want Invasor to get to the front and goof off, allowing him to get caught should anyone be mounting a rally. With as good a horse as DC someplace back there, possibly mounting a rally Jara simply has to take stock of the race setting up behind him.
Those are my exact thoughts, when i saw him glance back I assumed he was just trying to see if he was going to be challenged from behind by Discreet Cat. I do not believe it was one of those look backs that some jockeys do in order to show off. He had to be curious as to what was going on with DC, so a quick glance back in order to size up the task at hand seems prudent.
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:55 PM
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I cannot fault him for the ride, or any other ride on Invasor to this point.

These statements about how Jara did not have to step on the horse are perhaps why he continues to win, as he never takes all the horse has to offer, so he has yet to significantly bounce.

I totally agree, why take an all-out effort from a horse when you don't need to? He continues to win, and if it is not as impressively as the Sheiks want, sorry.

Winning is one thing, and if they want to win and look as good as possible, find another jockey...

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Old 04-02-2007, 01:13 PM
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Agree. One thing I like to see is a jock leave some gas in the tank. Many times winning by 10 when one length is fine ends up getting you beat next time.
Sounds like a big ego that wants to see his horse win by 25 lengths. It's unnesessary.
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Old 04-02-2007, 01:03 PM
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That is incredible. That Sheikh is completely clueless. He has no understanding of horseracing whatsoever. Jara rode the horse perfectly. You never want to move too early and you don't want to ask a horse if you don't have to. In addition, when there is a horse in front of you that you think you can go by at any time, you want to look back and see if anyone else is coming.

The Sheikh Hamdan is so off-base it is incredible. I don't think you would have ever heard Sheikh Muhammad say something like that. I think Sheikh Muhammad has a little better understanding of racing than that.
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:38 AM
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That is incredible. That Sheikh is completely clueless. He has no understanding of horseracing whatsoever. Jara rode the horse perfectly. You never want to move too early and you don't want to ask a horse if you don't have to. In addition, when there is a horse in front of you that you think you can go by at any time, you want to look back and see if anyone else is coming.

The Sheikh Hamdan is so off-base it is incredible. I don't think you would have ever heard Sheikh Muhammad say something like that. I think Sheikh Muhammad has a little better understanding of racing than that.
......... nail on the head.
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:02 PM
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This thread is just amazing. Before anyone else posts, though, let me grab another bag of popcorn...

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Old 04-03-2007, 10:19 PM
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I just watched a replay of th 1973 Belmont. Damn that Turcotte for stealing a peek back on the turn and coasting to the line. He coulda won by 50 lengths if he woulda gone to the whip.... "Just win, baby."
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:47 AM
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It appears that an element of Hamdan's comments may have been motivated by Shadwell Euro 'house' rider Richard Hills, whom you'll note was on board Invasor for his lone career defeat. Those close to the situation believe Hills is likely to be campaigning in advance for the mount on the defending HOY in this fall's BC Classic, and has been badrapping Jara to Hamdan.
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Old 04-04-2007, 06:53 AM
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It appears that an element of Hamdan's comments may have been motivated by Shadwell Euro 'house' rider Richard Hills, whom you'll note was on board Invasor for his lone career defeat. Those close to the situation believe Hills is likely to be campaigning in advance for the mount on the defending HOY in this fall's BC Classic, and has been badrapping Jara to Hamdan.
What a jerk -
I hope Jara takes this constructively and really puts his mind to his riding and proves HE is the one who belongs on Invasor.
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Old 04-04-2007, 09:09 AM
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It appears that an element of Hamdan's comments may have been motivated by Shadwell Euro 'house' rider Richard Hills, whom you'll note was on board Invasor for his lone career defeat. Those close to the situation believe Hills is likely to be campaigning in advance for the mount on the defending HOY in this fall's BC Classic, and has been badrapping Jara to Hamdan.
Perhaps Hills should shut his mouth and concentrate on his riding. If he had been doing that, perhaps he wouldn't have gotten himself into the predicament of losing his ride on Invasor. Jealousy... what an awful thing.
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Old 04-04-2007, 09:40 AM
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It appears that an element of Hamdan's comments may have been motivated by Shadwell Euro 'house' rider Richard Hills, whom you'll note was on board Invasor for his lone career defeat. Those close to the situation believe Hills is likely to be campaigning in advance for the mount on the defending HOY in this fall's BC Classic, and has been badrapping Jara to Hamdan.
I heard that Hill took a wrath of #^%@ from Hamdan for his losing ride last year. That blame never went public. Funny, they were hushed about Hills, who lost but public about Jara, who won!
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:01 PM
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It appears that an element of Hamdan's comments may have been motivated by Shadwell Euro 'house' rider Richard Hills, whom you'll note was on board Invasor for his lone career defeat. Those close to the situation believe Hills is likely to be campaigning in advance for the mount on the defending HOY in this fall's BC Classic, and has been badrapping Jara to Hamdan.
Without knowing this information I had the same idea. I figured that there must me some top rider(s) that are chirping in his ear about how he needs to take the mount away from Jara, critiquing everything and pointing out the flaws.

i think it would be a bad move, to make a change. No sense tinkering with something working that well.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:15 PM
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It appears that an element of Hamdan's comments may have been motivated by Shadwell Euro 'house' rider Richard Hills, whom you'll note was on board Invasor for his lone career defeat. Those close to the situation believe Hills is likely to be campaigning in advance for the mount on the defending HOY in this fall's BC Classic, and has been badrapping Jara to Hamdan.
Richard Hills? Is he related to Jamie Spencer?
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