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Old 03-19-2007, 12:28 AM
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Methinks he merely sucked up for third.
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Old 03-19-2007, 05:27 AM
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Methinks he merely sucked up for third.
Did you watch the head on replay of the start, BTWind? The horse looked like it had a meeting it was trying to make near the outside rail.

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Old 03-19-2007, 12:32 PM
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I just watched the replay again at:

http://tampabaydowns.com/DailyReplays.aspx (choose 3/17, race 12)

It's almost comical watching Delightful Kiss zigzaggin at the start. From post 7 he gets out to post 11 before the rider cuts him back toward the inside rail. When he makes that cut, he looks like a rodeo horse chasing down an errant calf. (Only the head-on view shows how far he ducked out.)

Going 5-wide on the 2nd turn didn't help any, either.

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Old 03-19-2007, 04:18 PM
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The head on replay was comical.

While not a horse that is going to make anyones list of Derby horses, I am keeping this horse on my radar as I think he has shown noticeable improvement since adding lasix and going back to dirt. I think he is a little undervalued right now and could be the type that clunks up into the tri or super at a price.

If I can toot my own horn for a second, I keyed him third in the Tampa bay derby using Street Sense / Any Given Sat / Delightful Kiss / with three horses for fourth in the super. Not a huge payout but since my ticket was basically a $3 play it wasn't bad.
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Old 03-20-2007, 07:56 AM
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"losing several lengths while trying to find the rest of the horses."



This is a very bad sign.
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:58 AM
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"losing several lengths while trying to find the rest of the horses."



This is a very bad sign.
LOL

I just watched it again and he did look very confused as to which way he needed to run. I wonder how he would have done had he broken normally?
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Old 03-20-2007, 02:26 PM
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LOL

I just watched it again and he did look very confused as to which way he needed to run. I wonder how he would have done had he broken normally?
Breaking "normally" for him is still sort of slow. But I think his zigzag cost him at least 3 lengths, Cajun. He was 13 lengths behind after a first quarter run in 23:50! Give him another length for taking the 2nd turn 5-wide, and that puts him within a couple of lengths of Street Sense and AGS.

I'm looking forward to his next race.

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If I can toot my own horn for a second, I keyed him third in the Tampa bay derby using Street Sense / Any Given Sat / Delightful Kiss / with three horses for fourth in the super. Not a huge payout but since my ticket was basically a $3 play it wasn't bad.
"wasn't bad" is an understatement. Nice work, Jim.

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Old 03-22-2007, 09:55 AM
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I just watched it again and he did look very confused as to which way he needed to run. I wonder how he would have done had he broken normally?


Maybe that's why they had him break as they did.
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Old 04-15-2007, 06:29 AM
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Methinks he merely sucked up for third.
Methinks you were right and I was wrong.

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