Best Sire in the world

[POINTGIVEN1985]

i love Sadler's Wells he has produced lots of monsters, but to be the best in the world, in my opinion you need more of a dirt influence.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i love Sadler's Wells he has produced lots of monsters, but to be the best in the world, in my opinion you need more of a dirt influence.

Dude there aint much Dirt racing in the rest of the world

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dude there aint much Dirt racing in the rest of the world

i realize that, but to be the best sire in the world dont you think that the sire should produce great horses on both surfaces ? thats why i think giants causeway will be the best, if he already isent. i have no problem saying sadler's wells is the best in Ireland

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i realize that, but to be the best sire in the world dont you think that the sire should produce great horses on both surfaces ? thats why i think giants causeway will be the best, if he already isent. i have no problem saying sadler's wells is the best in Ireland

Comparing Giants Causeway and Sadlers Wells is like comparing Eli Manning and Johnny Unitas

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i realize that, but to be the best sire in the world dont you think that the sire should produce great horses on both surfaces ? thats why i think giants causeway will be the best, if he already isent. i have no problem saying sadler's wells is the best in Ireland

im going to stand by that....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

im going to stand by that....

By the way I think that Giants Causeway is really a turf sire that occasionally gets a dirt runner. Sadlers Wells is a legendary sire, perhaps the greatest sire ever in Europe. Maybe Giants Causeway can get a fair stakes horse like First Samurai on the Dirt but he is about 10 champions behind Sadlers Wells on the Turf. I believe that you may be attaching yourself to a falling star.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

By the way I think that Giants Causeway is really a turf sire that occasionally gets a dirt runner. Sadlers Wells is a legendary sire, perhaps the greatest sire ever in Europe. Maybe Giants Causeway can get a fair stakes horse like First Samurai on the Dirt but he is about 10 champions behind Sadlers Wells on the Turf. I believe that you may be attaching yourself to a falling star.

well at this point im definitly attached i think he is a great sire, but i ment i was standing by the fact that i cannot call saddlers wells the best sire in the world because he dosent produce on both surfaces....i can say the best in ireland, or europe, but not in the world

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

well at this point im definitly attached i think he is a great sire, but i ment i was standing by the fact that i cannot call saddlers wells the best sire in the world because he dosent produce on both surfaces....i can say the best in ireland, but not in the world

I will bet you that Giants Causeway has zero grade 1 winners on the dirt this year.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

.i can say the best in ireland, or europe, but not in the world

How about the best in Europe, Asia, Dubai, and Austrilia? That is a lot of the world

[Thoroughbred Fan]

For my money the best in the world are: Sadler's Wells, A.P. Indy, Redoute's Choice, El Prado, Gone West, Encosta de Lago, and Not For Love.

[magic_idol]

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

For my money the best in the world are: Sadler's Wells, A.P. Indy, Redoute's Choice, El Prado, Gone West, Encosta de Lago, and Not For Love.

Redoute's Choice produces the best offspring ive ever seen time & time again,
Some of his yearlings come in at the 500 kilo mark ( not sure in american weight that would be ) Now if we could only get him on the breeders Cup stallion list
There would be no more talk of street cry

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

For my money the best in the world are: Sadler's Wells, A.P. Indy, Redoute's Choice, El Prado, Gone West, Encosta de Lago, and Not For Love.

I like Not For Love as well... He's got some good two-year-olds this year that I'm going to be watching for when they make their starts.

[Cajungator26]

Does anyone have any thoughts on how successful Deputy Storm will be? (He stands at Northview in Maryland as well.) He's a Forestry and built very similar to Discreet Cat. I'm curious to see how well he does.

[magic_idol]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Redoute's Choice has eclipsed Encosta de Lago now, but the problem with the Redoute's Choice horses is that they don't go long (Miss Finland being an exception). Although 'Choice is wildly popular commercially, I'd take Zabeel offspring any day.

Same but 3 to 4 years is a long time to wait in this job